Try Universal Cycles too. They are closer to $50 and you can usually get
another 10% off via their email list.

Best,
William

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:13 AM dougP <dougpn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well this got me onto the Soma site & they have more options (almost too
> many).
>
> The 42 mm Cazadero is now listed as being available in blackwall, and
> there is also a 50 mm Cazadero in black.  Both price mid-$70s, a bit above
> the $60ish of other chubby 700c options.  The 50 mm Caz has a listed weight
> of 570 gr vs 670 for the 48 mm Shikaro.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 7:14:40 AM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote:
>>
>> I had Compass Snoqualmie Pass ELs on my Joe, but I wanted something with
>> a little more width and some more puncture protection. I tried the Schwalbe
>> Almotion 700 x 50, but both tires wobbled (one badly) and the road feel was
>> a little dead. I also briefly fitted some Continental Race Kings (29 x
>> 2.2), and while they fit just fine, an MTB tire wasn't really what I was
>> after.
>>
>> I didn't find a lot of reviews of the Shikoro, but someone on this board
>> referenced their durability, so I decided to take a chance. I mounted the
>> tires last night and thought I'd register my first impression and the
>> measured width for anyone who may be considering them.
>>
>> The tires roll well. I was surprised not to notice a huge difference
>> between the Compass treads and the Shikoros. They are a stiffer tire and
>> twice the weight, but a short ride on familiar terrain tells me I'm going
>> to like them a lot. No noticeable extra resistance climbing, and swift,
>> smooth roll down the hills. On gravel, a nice cushion and good grip (for a
>> "treadles" tire).
>>
>> The rear tire measurres 47.32mm on a Mavic A719 at 50lbs. The front
>> measures 46mm on the same rim at 40lbs. For reference, the Compass 700 x
>> 44s--after a couple of months--measure about 41mm on DT Swiss TK540s, front
>> and rear. Lighter riders will run these at lower pressures, so 45-46mm
>> inflated width is about what you should expect.
>>
>> I've always favoured all-black tires, but I really like the look of
>> these.
>>
>> Jay
>>
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