The Tolkien names thing was a story in several chapters. IIRC, it was originally stated that Riv was contacted by the movie people and told to stop using the Tolkien names that came after the production of the movies. A few years later Riv said that they had agreed to stop using the names voluntarily when they were contacted by the movie people. Next, Grant said that they were contacted by the movie people and Riv agreed to stop using the names voluntarily but the movie people really had no real legal recourse. Then Riv said they had agreed to not put the names on the website or advertisements but could still make the bikes and that it was all probably moot anyway because the movie people couldn't really stop them if they wanted to put them on the site but that it just wasn't worth the hassle and Riv went in another direction naming wise. I think that's where it currently stands.
I think the Rivendell/ no Rivendell downtube is just Grant's preference and possibly tied to the historical trajectory started with the multi-party Heron bikes. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.