I would infer Garth meant this one. https://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-porteur-rack.html and use these for a higher attachment point instead of just the fork crown mount. http://surlybikes.com/parts/small_parts/rear_rack_upper_kit
"I'd get a porteur rack of some sort, prolly the Soma Deluxe or the VO one with the Surly strut kit to attach to the mid fork eyelets. Then I'd either use a bag inside the fence of the rack or attach some other kind of container, just not a flimsy wire basket since they are not made to be attached with the basket wires." My experience with front racks (I tend to wind up buying things picking up things and generally adding stuff to capacity). I had a Nitto M-12 on a Rambouillet and an Ocean Air Cycles Demi Porteur bag and overloaded it too often and it was wobbly. Found a used Nitto 27F and its great. Moved the M-12 to the SO's Betty Foy and overloaded/didn't like the safety strap Got a used Nitto Big Front rack w/ basket and a Makeshifter Canvas Works basketcase. Easy to load/unload take with and can take panniers. I set up a differnt Betty Foy with a M-18 marks rack with both struts going to one mount point and the crown attachment. Has a wald basket and I think its nice looks clean I think it is much better than the M-12 but I feel like it should have a set of longer struts to the drop out ie. Coreys Chev. https://www.rivbike.com/pages/coreys-staff-bikes But once you do that I would go for the Nitto 27F/Big Rack for Pannier ability. On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote: > > @Garth do you mean the *Constructeur Front Rack?* > > https://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html > > > On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: >> >> Either the Soma Deluxe Porteur or the Velo Orange one with the Surly >> strut kit for $35 if you plan on carrying anything more than 5 pounds. Yes, >> I know people do it all the time but that doesn't make it a great idea. >> >> Both of these would have 4 and/or 5 point attachments and be stable. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.