Bill
 
yes, I had it flipped.  The 54cm frame moves the BB towards the front vs the 
52cm frame.
 
Thanks,  I'm going with a 60cm estimated FC
 
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

 
 
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From: Bill Lindsay <[email protected]>
To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 4, 2017 5:53 pm
Subject: [RBW] Re: 54cm Saluki - Front Center Measurement



It's the bigger one, the 54 that has the slacker 72 STA.  
The smaller one, the 52, has a steeper 72.5 STA


Maybe that's why you have it flipped?

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:

Bill


I agree with your methodology.  I'm a little confused on the 5mm "adjustment" 
for the STA difference (72 on 52 and 72,5 on the 54).


If the 52cm/72deg TSA shifts it's FC forward, wouldn't the 5mm be ADDED to the 
52 FC to get the 54 FC, i.e 


54cm FC = 59.0 + 1.5 (TTL delta) + 0.5 (STA delta) = 61.0cm for 54cm frame 
FC????


Either way, 60 to 61 is adequate since my current bike has 60.7cm FC and about 
5mm clearance to the P45 fenders


John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

In the absence of a measurement, you could do a rough estimate.  


Assume we believe that the 52cm 650B Hilsen has a 59cm front center.  That's in 
the geo-chart
Let's mutually grumble that there is no front center for the 54 or the 56.  
Grumble...
But the 54 has the identical fork and the identical head tube angle.  It also 
has the same BB drop.
The 54 has a 1.5cm longer effective top tube, that adds 1.5cm to front center
The 54 has a 72 degree seat tube angle instead of a 72.5. that shifts the BB 
forward by about 5mm, subtracting 5mm off of front center.
>From that I would estimate the 54cm 650B Hilsen to have a front center of 60cm.


Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito CA

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 7:59:22 AM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:

If anyone has a 54cm Saluki or AHH (650B), I would appreciate it if you could 
measure and post the Front Center distance, distance from the crank center to 
the front axle center.  The RBW specs do not provide FC.


Looking for a value of => 59.5cm to avoid TCO.


John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ





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