On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:51:12 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I'd be *very* interested to learn more about this, and how it relates to > f-c, trail, hta, tires, and so forth. Anyone? >
Keeping the right balance of weight on the front wheel helps with that nice turn-in you describe. It can be a challenge with any bike intended for fendered use by people who don't like toe overlap, where designers are trying to maximize front-center to keep toes out of fenders. That can be mitigated a little in a low trail bike because an extra 20mm fork offset puts the wheel further away. But in general low trail designs have longer front-center than some, if only because of more fork offset. Mtbs got elongated front-centers for endo-prevention from the late 90s on--Fischer called it Genesis Geometry. Plus there's been a decades long trend of preference for short chainstays. All this tends to take weight off the front wheel (in the last instance of mtbs that was intended). Add to that the front-end-lightening general trend for high handlebars in the RBW, 600B, iBob world, and you can lose that nice front-weighted turn-in feel. Long chainstays move weight back forward to the front end, all else equal, and you see that in Riv models. Perhaps Grant has found a way to make a bike intended for high bars, fenders, and no toe-overlap that nevertheless keeps weight on the front wheel (by balancing a short as possible front-center with long chainstays and low bb) for that planted feel with responsive turn initiation. --Mitch (non-Riv) low trail designs because extra fork offset can put the wheel 20mm further out there (a lot). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
