When somebody asked how old my Atlantis or Kvale is I think of a scene
from "The Untouchables"

Ness: [looking at a gold chain Malone is holding] What is that?
Malone: Ah, I'm among the heathen. That is my call box key, and
that... is my St. Jude medallion.
Ness: Saint who?
George Stone: Santo Jude. The patron saint of lost causes.
Malone: And policemen.
Ness: Well, which are we, gentlemen - policemen, or lost causes?

We are riding amongst the heathen, ;-)
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