Based on may miles of touring, commuting and riding brevets I have found that for me (a rather large rider) the Ruffy Tuffy is the best all around tire I have found. They road well and rarely flatted until they were nearly worn out. I found them very dependable. The GB's are a slightly faster tire but are not as sturdy. I use them for brevets and don't let them get to worn out before changing them. This is all a moot point since Grant has indicated that he may soon be retiring the Ruffy Tuffy and the Rolly Polly. I will probably switch to 28mm Tourguards for general use on my Rambo. If I had a bike that could fit Jack Browns I would use them. I actually do use them on my Tandem and will probably switch to them on my QB and Atlantis when my current Tourguards wear out. The belted tires will be sturdier and the non-belted are faster. Which to use depends on your riding conditions the only way to know is to try each and see how they work for you. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain From: nath...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 32mm Tires on A Rambouillet Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:03:26 -0800 Larry, can you comment as to the ride quality and flat-ability differences between the Ruffy Tuffy and the Cypress? I'm currently considering between the two and haven't read any head-on comparisons between em. -nathan On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote: The only advantage was that I had them installed on my bike when I went from ruffy tuffy's to the 30mm grand bois. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:22:48 -0800 > Subject: [RBW] Re: 32mm Tires on A Rambouillet > From: nick.bike.b...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Come to think of it, to be more accurate, I never got it to work with > the Pana 32's, which I was using when I got the Ram. So I bought and > installed new SKS45 fenders. And since then, I've never actually > tried it with the SKS35's and GB30's. I just assumed that since the > Pana's (which run a little small) didn't work, the GB's wouldn't > either. But I'm not sure that there's any significant advantage to > the SKS35's over the SKS45's for randonneuring (slightly lighter? > slightly less aero drag?). > > On Jan 14, 7:27 pm, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I did run Grand Bois 30's sith SKS 35's. Clearance was tight as you > > described for the 45's and there were a lot of pebbles that scraped their > > way through. The clearance was tight and while I never had a problem while > > riding I often had to adjust the fenders after transporting the bike. > > > > Larry Powers > > > > Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:02:46 -0800 > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: 32mm Tires on A Rambouillet > > > From: nick.bike.b...@gmail.com > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > > Ram # RB0453, SKS 45's, Open Pro rims, and the Shimano brakes that > > > came with the bike. I've run GB30's and Pana Pasela 32's for the last > > > three years. Clearances are tight, and if you're on chipseal you'll > > > hear pebbles scrape by as they come round under the fender. In my > > > experience, the SKS35's are too tight to run 30's or 32's, unless > > > you're setting them up so that the centerline of the fender is maybe > > > an inch or inch and a half away from the tire, putting the sides of > > > the fenders far enough away from the sides of the tire to eliminate > > > fender rub under high frame flex conditions like hillclimbing. > > > Anyway, try as I might, I couldn't get the SKS35's that came with my > > > Ram to work with the GB30's or PP32's. > > > > > Nick > > > > > On Jan 12, 11:35 pm, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > A couple of people have posted that they have run 32 mm tires on a > > > > Rambouillet. I have run 30mm tires with 35mm SKS fenders and Shimano > > > > long reach brakes. It was a very close fit using Grand Bois 30mm > > > > tires. > > > > > > What brand tires have you used to do this? It seems the height of the > > > > tire is the limiting factor so a round tire would work better then a > > > > tall oval shaped tire. I have thought about experimenting with the > > > > wide mouth brakes to see what is possible. Another thing I have > > > > wondered about is rims. Does a wide rim give a lower profile to the > > > > tire then a narrow rim? My current wheels are built with Open Pro > > > > rims. > > > > > > I would be very interested in hearing how you made this work and what > > > > type of fender/tire clearance you had. > > > > > > Larry Powers > > > > > > Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email > > > > service.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. 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