Thanks to everyone for their considered responses. These are somewhat long term plans right now. One planned route is out of Bozeman up Bridger Canyon then camping somewhere on Flathead Pass. Return next day down the west side of the Bridgers.
A few comments: Pannier storage is an option but looking for more of a rack-mounted solution. Perhaps in a bear can in a bag strapped to the rear rack. I'll need to try the stability. Front already taken by H'bar bag, maybe add front rack as well (an ancient Karrimor perhaps? {THAT'S gotta date me!}) Alternatively a custom rack specifically designed to hold a cylinder. Deacon, as you point out bear behavior varies radically especially from region to region. Sierra bears are among the WORST. In the front country steel lockers the only safe storage. Food and other "smellies" in cars will result in a destroyed car. Don't even think about leaving food in a tent or pack unless you want them destroyed as well. One bear even took a pack of a kid's back at the top of Nevada Falls in Yosemite and was subsequently destroyed. (The bears' behavior was becoming more dangerous over time, the kid was unharmed.) Yellowstone and Glacier are a different matter, only requiring storage in a hard-sided vehicle such as a car or a standard trailer. Tents and tent trailers are out. Hanging alway an option as I'm not intending to camp above tree-line. I've just found it time consuming to set up. I use a dacron line -- doesn't stretch like nylon can. Even then the mini-bears can get into a standard bag (mini-bears = chipmunks). Bear spray goes without saying. Carry it on my hip. Ursak, an interesting option, especially when combined with a hang. But ALL bear resistant containers have their limitations. * I have heard of at least one Sierra bear that has learned to spin the top off the BearVault container, * Another that has learned to drop the Garcia cans off a 300 foot cliff to crack it open. * Then there is the rumored "Kamakazi Bear" of northwestern Cali that is reputed to climb above hung bags and jump on the lines to bring the bags down. * I have also seen videos of a standing sow with a cub standing on her shoulders being able to reach a standard hang. * The Bearsak? As Deacon has reported bears have been unable to breach them but how well do the contents survive? The bears can't get the food, but I've heard you'd better like the pulverized mixture of everything together, possibly drenched in bear drool! (only a rumor of course.) Thanks to everyone! and Cheers! Final fun thoughts: Some tourists complain about the cost of bear spray - something they might not even need (and you can't fly it home). So what do you do with it after you leave. A Ranger in Glacier suggested that you keep it by the front door... It's easy to tell the type of bear in the area, without seeing the bear. * Black bear scat is full of berries, nuts, and small mammal parts, and smells like scat. * Grizzly scat has the same contents but with the addition of bells and smelling of pepper... Why can't bears open the Garcia-type containers? It's because they don't have pockets! If they don't have pockets they don't have a place to carry the quarters needed to open the canister... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.