On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:28:26 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I think you've nailed it with "respect for 50yo carbon frames", they will 
> be virtually non-existent. There's no real concern for the longevity of 
> current electronic shifting systems because they'll be replaced in a few 
> years along with the frame they're attached to. 
>
> I think traditional steel bikes with manual components will continue to be 
> passed around and restored indefinitely, but this is simply not the case 
> with carbon racey bikes. We are in the era of the disposable bicycle in 
> that market. 
>

I have to agree. It is already happening with Shimano Dura Ace 1st 
generation di2. Parts are no longer available and the 800-1000 users are 
out of luck or have to pay exorbitant prices for spares!  I know one guy 
who got rid of his 1st gen DA carbon bike and now has a new carbon bike 
with guess...mechanical Sram Red!  :)

Btw, my calfee is now 20 years old since I bought it used in 1997 (I 
believe its a 94 model) and is still going strong. I have easily over 
30,000 miles on it and expect it to last another 20 years. But the latest 
carbon frames out of Taiwan are much much lighter and who knows how long 
they will last.....then again, the MUSA Trek Emonda SLR frame that weighs 
680g has a weight limit of 275lb, so who knows?! Good Luck! 

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