I frequently have difficult sleeping all night; I wake up and then all 
kinds of issues and problems of the day/week/era begin racing through my 
mind and some of them bother me to the point where I can't get back to 
sleep.  Last night was no exception after having read through the threads 
on this post yesterday.  So I got up to re-read this blog post.

Here's the bothersome issue:  You say that the frame is a 62.8 measured at 
the middle of the top tube, since it has a 2.5° upslope.  Then you go on to 
mention in the response below that your "SH" (I assume you mean stand over 
height) is 80.5cm.  Grant, in his Blug post says the frame has the 
"functionality" of a Homer [Hilsen].  If I look at a Hilsen geometry chart 
I see an approximate SOH of 83cm for the smallest Hilsen frame made (a 
57cm) and that's with 700x35mm tires.  I myself have a SOH between 79-80cm 
and I'm riding a 54cm Rambouillet w/ 32mm tires.  At best, I might be able 
to climb aboard a 55cm with a serious insult to the tenders every time I 
come to a stop.  Again, according to the Hilsen geo's someone riding a 61cm 
frame would have an average SOH of about 87cm.  AND you plan to use 42mm 
tires, which is going to jack the frame up even higher.

I must be missing something somewhere in the translation here...

On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 9:27:05 PM UTC-6, panog wrote:
>
> @John H.
>
> The 47cm chainstays were Grant's decision and seemingly one of the twists 
> he did on my Hilsen-like custom. The thinking is that there is no reason 
> for shorter than 47 considering also that my SH is at 80.5cm. The notion 
> here is being positioned less on top of the rear wheel which would affect 
> comfort. Grant also mentioned that the longer stays would not affect the 
> ability to adjust the line the bike takes around a turn. 
> The 47-49cm stays are more evident at the Riv touring style bikes ( ie 
> Atlantis and Hunq) vs. the more roadish style Roadeo. Even longer stays in 
> excess of 50cm appear to be the direction RBW is now taking with the newer 
> Appas, Rosco, etc 
> My experience with these is very superficial and limited to a couple of 
> hours on an Appaloosa. Until now the longest stays I had on any of my other 
> bikes were 43.5cm on my light touring and 41.5cm on my racing-like. I could 
> do a wheelie at will with either; particularly easy on a steep up-slope.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 6:58:56 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>> Pano
>>
>> The 47cm CS seem 2 to 3cm longer than normal.    Were longer CS 
>> a conscience decision????
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 10:03:11 PM UTC-5, panog wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> CS length 47cm
>>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>

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