Provide 2 cm clearance and "folding-up" is far less of a concern.


On 02/04/2017 12:52 AM, panog wrote:
Thank you.

An issue with metal fenders could be the so called "folding-up" when sticks caught by the tire are pushed up under the fender as the tire rotates forward. This could result in the fender "folding-over" at the crown, abruptly stopping the motion of the bike and causing the rider to go over the handlebars. The SKS fenders, that RBW advocates, use safety release tabs where the fender stays connect to the dropouts. These are designed to release and free the fender so it does not get squished under the crown. Very valid concern, specially with deep tread tires that tend to pick stuff as they roll. My use is predominantly paved roads and smooth tread tires so the chances for this happening are significantly reduced, I hope.


On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 12:36:36 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

    A truly beautiful bike. Congratulations. And a slap on the back to
    Grant for confirming that Riv is not in the "retro recreation scene."

    Curious: What does Grant have against VO or perhaps just metal
    fenders?

    More photos, please, as you build it up and ride it, and your
    impressions of the ride. I know that my Riv road bikes define fit
    and handling for me.

    On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:30 PM, panog <[email protected]
    <javascript:>> wrote:

        Yes, the frameset does show features that may be viewed as
        non-Riv typical. After filling out the order forms, these
        features included, Grant was kind enough to entertain me in
        several hour-long telephone discussions pertaining to the
        intended use of the bike, handling characteristics, etc. I
        distinctly recall him emphatically mentioning that RBW is not
        in the retro recreation scene. Neither was this my intention.
        I wanted a Rivendell, with the performance features Riv's are
        known for and with a few amenities that make sense for my use.

        Following with the features list Bill posted:
        1. /Seatstay pump peg:/ During my daily commute I have to
        carry the bike up a few steps. I do that holding it by the top
        tube. The typical pump install under the TT would interfere
        with this. Same reason for going with the internal brake cable
        TT routing instead of the CX routing version which I am not
        aesthetically fond off.
        2. /Frenchie chainstay slap guard:/ I typically use the
        self-adhesive VO leather guard. Every six months or so I
        usually peel it off and replace it when it gets too dirty as I
        often ride in the rain. Glue remnants left behind need
        scrubbing with thinner to be removed. The rubber chainslap
        guard, suspended over the CS, will alleviate that.
        3. /Under the fork crown fender boss:/ I think it makes
        installation of fenders without using a L angle easier.
        4. /Dynamo wire guides:/  I think it makes for a neater
        installation of the wiring and allows easier/quicker removal
        of the wire (without having to cut-off too many zip ties) when
        a non dynamo-hub wheel is used.

        BTW, Mark Nobilette did ask if I would have preferred the SL
        dropouts for totally hidden wiring but I opted out because I
        have several non connector-less hub wheels and need to be able
        to use them from bike to bike if need be.

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