Wow! There are similar squabblings taking place right now vis-a-vis 
cranksets on the BOB list. 

I've collected a stash of NOS Suntour XC pro cantis over the years as they 
are, to my eye, just delightfully elegant and simple. Those gleaming 
pointy-hat fixing bolts just make me smile. 

But I digress; I have them installed on three very nice bicycles, with 
thick, chunky Scott-Mathauser pads & thin Eagle (orange) pads and they were 
all easily adjusted with no squealing. I ride fast (sometimes) and have 
just never noticed any fork flex or modulation issues. And I've never run a 
red light or careened off a mountain pass...yes we have mountains in 
GA--including two formidable up & downs: Hogpen Gap & Brasstown Bald. Man, 
if you don't bend a fork braking down either one of those beasts, you ain't 
gonna bend a fork, ha! 

I guess, with nearly all things bicycle, this wise rule applies: YMMV.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 12:18:12 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> I'll say, V brakes are the ones that don't seem to get any respect. 
>> Cantis still have some cool factor from the 'cross crowd, but V brake seem 
>> mostly relegated to cheap hybrids. But if you look at power, cost, weight, 
>> modulation, and set up ease, I think V's would at least get a podium finish 
>> in every category.
>>
>> IME, for snow and ice, disc brakes are the best. Otherwise, I would be 
>> happy with V brakes on everything else.
>>
>
> Agree. I had suntour xc pro canti brakes and hated them on the front!  No 
> matter what I did - change pads, adjust toe-in, etc. It would work for a 
> few rides then it was back to the squealing and shuddering. This was on a 
> steel frame bike with a steel fork too.  I was using Campy ergo shifters 
> and it was a pain. So I went into my LBS and they said try a mini-v brake. 
> I bought the cheapest Tektro 926al for about $20 and wow, what a 
> difference!  It was like night and day!  No more squealing or shuddering or 
> the lever almost hitting the handlebar. It just worked. It was like the 
> best $20 I ever spent!  I gave away that suntour canti brake, but still 
> keep the one in the rear as I didn't have a problem with it.
>
> So my new frame is going to have Paul minimoto mini-v brakes. I tried the 
> Pauls on another friend's bike and it worked great. Also, easy to adjust 
> too.
>
> Of course, YMMV!  Good Luck!
>
>>
>> Eric Daume
>> Plain City, OH
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Michael Hechmer <mhec...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably like a lot of us, I got an email announcing a Jan Hein blog 
>>> comparing rim & disk brakes.  Now, I have almost no experience with disk 
>>> brakes but much of what I read makes me think they could be a good choice 
>>> for some bikes.  I found myself saying, not my experience,  when he 
>>> compared posted CP and canti brakes. Jan has a phenomenal amount of 
>>> experience that's hard to challenge, but....  My experience of modulation 
>>> with good, and I emphasize good, cantis has not been any less than with 
>>> good CP brakes.  The issue of shutter, which he raises with cantis, because 
>>> they mount lower on the fork than CP brakes, seems, to me, to be related to 
>>> the skill of the bike builder.
>>>
>>> Here's my experience with Cantis vs CP brakes.  My early Saluki, with 
>>> Paul's cantis offers excellent stopping power and modulation that is just 
>>> as good as the Pauls's CP brakes on my Rambouilet.  I originally had Pauls 
>>> posted CP on my tandem with 38 mm tires and converted the frame to cantis 
>>> in order to go to 45mm and switched to Paul's neo-retros.  There is no 
>>> difference in modulation, the cantis might offer a minute amount of extra 
>>> braking (when set up properly).  However a tandem might not be an exact 
>>> comparison to braking on a single.  The extra mass is huge, but the extra 
>>> weight in the rear (no offense honey) helps to keep the rear wheel planted 
>>> and adds to rear braking power.
>>>
>>> Michael
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