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This might help Ash, on the Raleigh...
I bought one, to build a bike around...lol.
Clayton (Bend)
On Friday, January 6, 2017 3:07 PM, Ash A <ashw...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rode the Raleigh 21 miles to work today. My neck is not a happy camper today.
Can't wait to ride like I want to ride once the Appaloosa arrives!
I'm going to try the seat adjustment you suggested before I ride back.
Here's picture of the Raleigh (more https://goo.gl/photos/ Ha4YXYY7WoPgZgVw8)
-Ash
On Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:04:21 UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
Please post photos of the built Appaloosa and of the Ace. The Appaloosa is one
of the Rivs I'd like to own, along with (in order of seriousness) the Roadeo,
the Hunq, the Atlantis, and the Legolas. The A would come in about here.
And who doesn't want to own a new/old Raleigh?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu <ash...@gmail.com> wrote:
Patrick,
I'll play with saddle position as well (as I said, I'm experimenting). Thanks
for the idea. Although my issue is less with arms and more with the neck.
Using typical drop bar position feels similar (to my neck) to watching a TV
mounted 25 ft above the floor during the entire ride.
Also thanks for bringing up safety part. It might be a significant factor for
some riders out there who are thinking using stem extender. For my use though
it does not *feel* like there is a safety issue. The upright position
significantly reduces the amount of weight that goes on the handlebar. Also, my
rides are mostly on flat roads. I never exceed 15mph. With the stem and the
extender both tucked all the way down, the setup is probably sturdy enough.
(which won't be the case I were to be climbing hills or riding fast downhill).
A better suitable bike frame is on the way, btw. I've ordered an Appaloosa
frame. Nitto Dirt Drop stem + ChocoNORM bar combination works great for me on
that (based on the test ride). I acquired a Raleigh Record Ace from a friend,
which I'm planning on using for occasional fast rides.
Chees,
-Ash
On Wednesday, 28 December 2016 07:14:03 UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
I'm glad the bar is comfortable, but it's too high: first, is it safe? I ask
that question very seriously. With the extender and then the long quill toward
the end of its travel, you are going to torque those joints far more than
usual, and perhaps to the point of some sort of failure.
Second, if you want a bar that high, you really need a very different frame,
one with a much higher head tube. When you go to such an extreme measure as on
your Bianchi, you know right away that you are trying to make a silk purse out
of something else.
And third, there are other ways of getting torso/neck/arm/hand comfort than
merely by raising the bar to an extreme height. It goes against the
imagination, but often (I don't say always), putting your saddle further back,
so that your core takes over the work of holding up your shoulders and head, is
the first step in setting up a bicycle comfortably. You'll notice that bikes
designed for very high bars, like the Dutch city bike, also have very, very
slack seat tube angles, and I don't think that this is merely coincidence.
All of this is entirely removed from any question of a "racing" position. (Note
too that the drop bar design is among the oldest around because it has been
proved one of the most comfortable when properly set up.)
I chose the 2 images below at random and only afterward noticed that both show
Velo Orange bikes.
I don't mean merely to be critical. You will do yourself a real favor by
finding either a more effective way to get comfort, or else, a very different
design that does safely allow such an extreme bar position.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu <ash...@gmail.com> wrote:
When I wondered about usability of brifters on Albastache/Mustache type bars
sometime ago, I couldn't find much info on interwebs.
I decided to get an Albastache anyway and give it a try. Turns out it works ok
with Campy brifters. Shimano/SRAM brifters aren't likely as suitable since
they don't have the thumb button.
I was happy to trade slightly reduced brifter usability for increased usable
handlebar positions that Albastache offers (in 3 years of riding this road
bike, I had never felt the need to use the lower part of drop bars. I did,
however, frequently looked for ways to be upright). Folks optimizing for
speed may feel differently.
Next experiment was handlebar height.
I've never felt uncomfortable to grab a spoon or use fingers, if I thought
those options were more optimal when everyone else was using chopsticks or
forks. Proliferation of skinny fashion didn't make me change my jeans. And so
on. I rank usability/practicality way higher than coolness. Still, when it
came to bike, somehow, I wasn't at ease raising handlebar above saddle level,
regardless of how stupid (and pain-in-the-neck-inducing) the default setup
felt. Last weekend I raised the bar like no one was watching. Picture
attached. It does look more comical than giraffe and lama, IMO. After several
short and couples of long rides, I'm concluding that this is how it is going to
be now on. Don't care if other bikers in the neighborhood cringe. My neck is
already thanking me.
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