Chris, yes I do recall that also about the expanded geometry. For myself it does not really change anything since stock frames are stock frames, they are going to fit who they will and those who are "close enough" may or may not actually be satisfied long term. Just like wearing clothes, maybe something feels or looks great in the store or first trying it on but after awhile if it was not really sized for you or what you really wanted, you wil eventualĺy become aware of it and may say "what was I thinking ?" I notice too it is very easy to get wooed by paint colors or other features on stock bikes, then you try to make yourself fit into it some way despite it not reaĺly being what you want or need ! Hah ..... done that ......
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