Thanks all for the for the input, keep it coming. I am leaning towards
the Roadeo (digging the white & blue) and will see what the Riv crew
says when I pay them a visit. I've visited them before and appreciate
their honesty.

Jim: Grant's knowledge and experience is another comforting factor as
well as buying from an established business.

On Jan 5, 12:26 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There is always some risk in a custom bike because every custom is one-
> of-a-kind, and there are no prototypes, etc to work out the bugs
> before the customer pays the bill and takes the frame/bike. And if you
> don't like it, a custom can be tough to sell. Rivendell has the
> advantage of having designed/sold thousands of bikes, not including
> the even larger number of GP-designed Bridgestones. Unless you have
> some really strange bodily dimension to accommodate, or want some non-
> standard features on the frame, I'd suggest the stock Roadeo.
>
> (I have a custom bike and it's wonderful, but not every custom owner
> has the same positive experience...)
>
> On Jan 4, 3:54 pm, sjauch <sja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I currently have a 2005 Specialized Allez Comp. It was my first road
> > bike and it is about a size too big and only recently got comfortable
> > riding it once I put an 80mm stem on it.
>
> > Anyway I have been looking for a new road bike and want to go with a
> > steel frame, preferably lugged. I have been eyeing the Rivendell
> > Roadeo, as well as the De Rosa Corum (not lugged) and custom builders,
> > Jeff Lyon and Circle A Cycles. I am very close to sending in a deposit
> > to Jeff Lyon because of his experience with building the type of
> > frames I'm interested in. However, I have resisted because I am drawn
> > to the Rivendell Roadeo since it is similar to what I would like Jeff
> > Lyon to build me. Also I am out in CA two or three times a year and
> > stay pretty close to where Rivendell is located. So, I can visit them
> > and test ride a similar frame to what I would be buying. They have 2
> > 55cm's built up and I'm a 52 or 53, so even though It's not my size I
> > can hopefully still get an idea of how it rides.
>
> > I also really like the De Rosa, but none of the shops I called keep
> > them in stock and if I am going to buy it locally I'd like to be able
> > to take it out for a spin to see how things feel. If I'm dropping over
> > 2k for that frame I might as well send my $ off to Lyon and let him
> > build me something since I couldn't test ride that either and is
> > probably more what I want.
>
> > That brings me back to the Rivendell and Lyon dilemma. I want a lugged
> > frame that is as light as practical and can fit fenders if I want to
> > use them. I like the Lyon option because for about the same as the
> > Rivendell I am getting something made just for me. However he is
> > relying on the measurements and info I provide to make the correct
> > frame. With the Riv bike I can visit them and let them take my
> > measurements to determine which size Roadeo is the best fit.
>
> > So I am really confused and am asking here to see which way some of
> > you would go.
>
> > Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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