I just read that the Inuit would forego base layers in all but the most horrendously cold weather, because it tended otherwise to trap moisture. Of course, their outer garments were in respect of heat management, unsurpassed.
Patrick: you said: 0F: mesh, cotton flannel, Ventile jacket climbing = perfect. Then you said: -25F: mesh, cotton flannel, windy, *no jacket* climbing???? You know the old roadie trick: stuff a used Gazzetto della Sport under your jersey for the descent. Patrick Moore, whose rides haven't dropped below 28*F this season, and that very briefly, so what do I know? On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote: > Learning curve of fishnet long johns follow-up: > > -- Wiggy's nylon is stunningly effective and unfortunately rough. Mojo's > Brynje merino version will soon be swimming the Atlantic and riding the > burro my way. I asked Rhodri at http://www.nordiclife.co.uk about their > synthetic fabric and he said it would 1) last a bit longer and 2) stink up > within a day or two. Merino it is! Grin. > > I continue to test in in these variable conditions we are having, from > warm (43˚F today) to cold (-2˚F is as low as I've gone so far this year). > Here's what I've learned so far with the Wiggy's nylon fishnet top: > > -- 0˚F: fishnet, cotton flannel, Ventile Cotton Analogy jacket was perfect > climbing the pass, and chilly descending the pass. Ideally I need to put on > another insulative layer before going down hill. But that is stunningly > little to wear at 0˚F vs. close knit base layer. > -- 25˚F, 10-20 mph wind up the pass: same as above, less the jacket > climbing. Donning the jacket before heading down was perfect. Easy to > underestimate the extremity layers needed, as I took too light a hat and > gloves for the windchilled descent (5˚F with windchill). > > There seems a different skill/knowledge set for wearing these, as > ventilation is the key to temp regulation and moisture management. I'm > still trying to figure that all out. The idea is the be slightly cool when > working via ventilating, then zip up/add insulation/windblocking when not > working and/or facing increased winds. > > So far, loving the new system and am staying warmer more easily despite my > bumbling learning curve! Grin. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: >> >> Fishnet. Wiggy’s (same company in Colorado that does Riv’s sleeping bag. >> http://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/fishnet-long-underwear/ >> >> I just did this test of the top: >> >> It was newly washed, along with a HEAVY flannel cotton shirt, just wrung >> out and still dripping wet. Put on my ventile shell, rode to WP in 10˚F, >> with 40 mph winds on the descent. Not warm, but I wasn’t colder at any >> point on the ride than when I first left the house. >> >> My head and hands with my yet to be fortified boiled wool hat and gloves >> were chilly on the descent. >> >> THAT’S impressive longjohning! Grin. >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> www.OurHolyConception.org >> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ************************************************************************** ************** *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
