Ryan: I wasn't being sensitive to perceived criticism -- some of my bikes <are> a bit "twee", as I understood the term when I looked it up (having seen it in a post from Patrick Moore --sorry for the misattribution).
As for the Berthoud flaps, I have a set on my Atlantis, and they are functionally superb and attractive, too. The key is to make the leather stiff enough to stay off the wheel and stop the spray, but flexy enough to deal with curbs. The Berthouds on my Atlantis walk that line very effectively. Tom Sent from my iPhone On Nov 10, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Ryan Fleming <ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com<mailto:ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com>> wrote: well my post(using twee) actually and I've seen them on your bikes and they look fine. I do like the berthoud mudflaps a lot. I'm just getting the stock mudflaps for the SKS cream longboards on my mixte though. My partner made me some homemade jobs on my X0-1 from, I think, deerhide, and these work OK but the leather's really supple so sometimes it rubs against the rear tire which was annoying until I figured out that that was the cause of rubbing noises from my rear wheel. On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 11:16:19 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: PATRICK, I have these on several bikes, and they work very well -- stiff enough to do their job, but flexible enough to negotiate curbs, etc. They hold up well in use. They look "used" almost right away, but at least in my experience never look trashed out. And the reflective material piece is VERY reflective. I like 'em. (But you've seen my bikes, which are doubtless on the "twee" (to use your word) side. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com<javascript:>> wrote: I see that Riv has one of those fancy, left-coast-type gussied up, pretty mudflaps made from effete cotton and leather -- probably voted for Hillary -- for $18. Good shape, though (mudflap, not Hillary). OTOH, Riv has the Longboard rubber mudflap in decent, middle-American black rubber, for $8. I'm tempted to buy the Sackville one just 'cause it's so purty, but damned if I'm not afraid of being teased for it. Seriously, how does one of these look after 100 miles of splash, mud, and slush? Like a tux worn too long away from the dry cleaner? The Longboard one is a guaranteed performer, I'm sure, but I think that the Sackville one actually has a better shape, as far as I can tell -- the photos of the LB one aren't as detailed as I'd like to see. Which one? This is for the '03's Berthoud fenders. The '03 is nice looking, but nothing on it chosen merely for pretty. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. 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