The pricing of Silver parts and kits is "non-strategic" and is supposed to be person-friendly, so you don't feel like a bad money-manger for buying components separately. A critic could see the whole shebang price as not offering any discount, but we go at it from the other way. It's hard to apply the same coat of paint to all items and circumstances--like, we often-especially-these-days try to offer early-buyer prices, or "faith buyer" prices to those who pay for bikes or frames before then arrive. That pricing is driven entirely by my wanting my wife, who pays bills, to have a less miserable existence. In the early years I was fouling up the books myself, and that, combined with a brand new baby was some incentive to drop out of her job as assistant head of a school (which had tons of future-promise) and stay home, watch baby, do RBW books). But she hates it and works uncomplainingly and fails to hide her stress at crunch time. That leads to early-pay discounts and less guilt for me and less stress for her. It all works out! Except that RBW derailed her from what would have been a more satisfying life...alas, and boo on me for that.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Lee Legrand <krm2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bill is right. > > That is what happened when I order the kit. The shifters and pods were > added to the kit list but they all had zero dollars, except the kit. I get > mine Monday. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Not exactly true. You do need a different shifter washer thingy for >> bar-end setup vs downtube setup, but when you buy the kit, you get BOTH. >> Put item #17089 in your basket and you will see what I mean. When you buy >> the bar-end KIT in your basket, all it does it put a set of downtube >> shifters in your basket (which has the right washer thingy for downtube) >> and it puts a set of bar end pods in your basket (which has the right >> washer thingy for bar-end setup). You can use them either way and you have >> a set of extra washer thingies for setting them up the other way later. >> >> If you bought a complete bike with barend shifters and want to move them >> to downtube, then you'll need to go buy the right washer thingies. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 1:03:50 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote: >>> >>> If you buy the bar end kit you should buy the "little travel stop >>> washer thingy " to go along with it for downtube use. Riv sells that >>> piece separately. It is round with a tab that stick out and a square >>> hole that fits over your frame boss. >>> >>> On 11/4/16, masmojo <mas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> > A few things: >>> > First, yes the bar end Silver Shifters are basically the same thing as >>> the >>> > downtube shifters, with the bar end pods. But,it should be noted that, >>> the >>> > bar end pod replaces the little travel stop washer thingy that cones >>> with >>> > the Silver Shifters when ordered in the downtube configuration. So >>> it's the >>> > same, just different. >>> > You could use the silvers on a 10 speed cluster, if you have a >>> suitable >>> > derailleur, but you might want to use something like the Wolftooth >>> Tanpan to >>> > handle the needed additional cable travel. I personally just used the >>> new >>> > Dia-Compe 11s shifter that VO is selling, downtube & shifts smooth as >>> butter >>> > with the XTR derailleur. >>> > I have the SS1s on my Drakkar & I love'em, but they do stick out >>> rather a >>> > lot when mounted on bar pods and I have nastily poked people (not on >>> > purpose) with them while riding the train. I welcome the new >>> compacty, >>> > ergoness! >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/vvqZUhQda >>> oM/unsubscribe. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> > >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/rbw-owners-bunch/vvqZUhQdaoM/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
