Patrick Moore asked two questions. Others were implied but I think these were the three he sincerely meant to ask:
1. do slack angles and therefore (all else equal) saddles well back of bb, work better with upright positions? In my humble opinion, no. I use the full length mirror to illustrate. Stand in front of the full length mirror, sideways. Bolt upright your head is stacked over your shoulders, down through your spine and hips down to your feet. Keep your spine straight and bend forward. As you bend forward reach your relaxed arms towards imaginary handlebars. As you reach for various different handlebar positions, and different spine and arm positions, look at what your hips are doing. The further down you reach and the further away you reach, the further back your hips need to go. Slack angles allow you to get your hips back more easily. An upright position doesn't need to have your hips get so far back. 2. Or perhaps, an upright position works best with a rearward saddle and thus slack angles? In my opinion, this is incorrect. Its the opposite. You don't need to slam your saddle back on an upright. You need to get your hips back with a sporting riding position. The case for a steep STA is for an aero riding position with aero bars where you rest substantial weight on your forearms. P.S. Grant wrote two things about saddle slamming. First, he noticed that everybody slams their Brooks saddles all the way back, because Brooks saddles have very short rails. Rivendell pretty much single handedly kept Brooks afloat for a while before Brooks became hipster-tweed-cool. Grant wanted to offer frames that did not require 100% of people to slam their Brooks saddles all the way back and handwring that they couldn't go farther. Second, Grant thinks a long setback seatpost and a slammed all the way back saddle just doesn't look good. On all my Rivendells, the saddle is very near the middle of the rails, with normal setback posts, and I think that's a nice look. That's why Rivendells' "long" top tubes are not actually all that long, because you are running your saddle farther forward. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
