But you cannot argue that the Gran Turismo (sounds like a wannabee muscle
car from the early 1970s) is much, much better looking -- all that shiny
chrome!

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:

> My 1972 Paramount came with a Gran Turismo rear derailleur.  Nice looking,
> but actual performance didn't begin to live up to its appearance.  I
> replaced it with a Shimano - looked like a Crane GS but the cheaper model
> down, Tourney? - and after that wore out, with a SunTour VGT Luxe.  If
> you're looking for a wide range 1970s vintage rear derailleur, the Sun Tour
> is the one to get.  It had better shifting performance on wide range
> freewheels than anything else out there, it lasted forever and it was
> cheap.  Santanas is totally right on this; I know it from living it first
> hand.
>
> On 10/01/2016 09:04 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You are right indeed; my mistake. In fact, I knew that but it slipped my
> mind because I'm much more familiar with the "Rally" name. In fact, Stevie
> himself didn't blink an eye when I said "Rally".
>
> To all of you who expressed interest in the "Rally" rd: sorry. Let me know
> if you are interested in a Gran Turismo.
>
> I must say that the GT is a rather impressive shiny pile of metal.
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:29 AM, satanas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> FYI, I think the "Rally" RD pictured is more likely to be a Gran Turismo
>> - it looks all steel to me.
>>
>> Regardless, either/both of these RDs are suitable only for collectors or
>> for static use - they shift abominably, perhaps the worst ever, from
>> anyone. Anything else, no matter how cheap, is almost certain to shift
>> better. They are of historical interest only, IMHO. I used to have to try
>> and make them work, and people always complained that cheap Japanese stuff
>> shifted better. Campag only got decent shifting from 8 speeds onwards;
>> before that they made reliable derailleurs that looked nice and were
>> prestiguous.
>>
>>
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