2x10 friction here with SLX RD. I use Microshift shifters in friction mode, 
I've used 8,9, and 10 speed friction. After a few shifts I get used to the 
cable pull and never think about it again.

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 2:08:41 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Clayton.sf <clayt...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I don't use friction with 10 speed. Too fiddly especially when tired. 
>> That is not a function of the type of friction shifter though. 
>>
>
> Just a quick counterpoint: I recently bought a Velo Routier. It came stock 
> with Silver shifters, a 10 speed 12-28 cassette, and a Microshift Centos 
> rear derailleur like this one: 
> https://www.amazon.com/microSHIFT-Derailleur-RD-R57SE-Bicycle-Compatible/dp/B014L49ZME/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1474048526&sr=8-3&keywords=centos+derailleur
>
> I was originally apprehensive about this combination for exactly the 
> reasons Clayton describes. But taking it for a ride, I was surprised how 
> well it worked. It was very difficult to find "bad" shift lever positions. 
> Nine times out of ten whatever position I'd stick the lever in would just 
> find a gear and work great with no trimming. The tenth time I'd just trim a 
> bit. It worked so well I came to really enjoy the downtube shifters.
>
> This is markedly different than my other friction bikes which require more 
> active and more frequent trimming (and all have barcons because of it). 
> Perhaps the derailleur is doing something special? Maybe with the floating 
> top pulley? I don't know.
>
> I later realized that Fred over on the 650B list rode the same bike 
> (literally the one I later bought) and made a similar observation: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/650b/6vYkUkoO_l4/T7gcNitEuC4J
>  
> Last note: This bike and derailleur only have a few hundred miles on them, 
> tops, so I can't speak to the longevity of this Microshift derailleur. But 
> it sure is working great now!
>
>
> Reed
>  
>
>> On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 3:26:06 AM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> Clayton,
>>>
>>> Do you use Silvers to shift your 10 speeds?
>>>
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