Hi.  I am 5'8" with a pbh of 77.8 so I am right there with you on that.  I 
have a 51 and I feel it is a good fit for me.  Although there isn't a lot 
of clearance I only ride it on the paved road and I've had no problems with 
the higher top tube.  And I'm quite sure I now own the bike that was being 
referred to.  I bought it off Craig's List but it was a new-old-stock frame 
built up by Bicycle Odyssey in Sausalito.  (Nice guys there by the way).  I 
had an albatross handlebar put on instead of the drops.  I really like the 
ride of the San Marcos and would highly recommend the bike.  It does "ride 
big" or perhaps I should say I feel like I am on a large bike when I ride 
it but not in a negative way at all.

To address your other point about availability, I also heard on the 
internet that they would stop producing the San Marcos so I set out to find 
a bike/frame before they all sold out.  There were newer frames with the 
Tiburon blue color but I preferred the Pearl blue of the previous edition.  
As mentioned, I lucked out at finding the CL bike and at a reasonable price 
from the shop.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.
Chris

On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, Rob H. wrote:

> I've got a "700c" 54 SM (first generation) and like it a lot. It's a 
> little bit odd because I bought it used off CL from some guy and it 
> actually has the shorter fork (650b for the 51cm SM) on it. So my solution, 
> ultimately, after getting tired of only being able to run super narrow 
> tires on it so it would rub up against the underside of the fork and front 
> brakes, was to put a 650b wheel up front. Now i've got 35mm wide tires on 
> it and looks like room for fenders still. 
>
> Also don't know if you're in the SF Bay Area but there was someone trying 
> to sell a built up 51cm SM on CL. I think they were in the South Bay 
> possibly a bike shop. At any rate, the listing expired (not deleted) so it 
> might pop up again and if you've got the cajones you could go give it a 
> test ride / kick the tires so to speak.
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 7:00:22 AM UTC-7, PineTarSoap wrote:
>>
>> I would like to get my first Riv bike. I mainly plan to commute with this 
>> bike (17 mi roundtrip, hills) and do the occasional road ride. I have a 
>> neck pain issue and I am hoping a more upright position and fatter tires 
>> will help. I have a nice carbon road bike for fast rides, but I would like 
>> to mix in a bike with a different position to take stress off my neck. I 
>> don't plan right now on doing any off-road riding or touring.
>>
>> I have tested ridden the Hunq, Cheviot, and Sam. They were all fun, but I 
>> thought the Sam probably seemed the most appropriate. But I didn't get a 
>> chance to ride a Soma SM. The Riv description is that is like a more well 
>> rounded Rodeo, which seems to fit what I would use it for. I suppose a 
>> Rodeo would as well but at more cost.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1) Does the Soma sound like the right choice for me?
>> 2) Do they still sell this frame? If you google search it, the Riv page 
>> is the first listed, but you can't find it on their frames page.
>> 3) My PBH is 78 (just) and so I guess I am in the 51 cm range, however 
>> the 51 cm Sam didn't leave much crotch room. Would a 47 cm work? Seems odd 
>> to me that the size down from 51 is a big jump to 47.
>>
>

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