Tim, Lots of great info. Thanks. If I go with bar ends, I was thinking of running the cable along the bar, existing the tape vertically through a notch in the inside of the brake hoods. That may keep the cable loop from going too far forward and interfering with a bag I may mount in the front later. This might avoid the friction of following the bar further along while still keeping the cable tucked in a bit.
> I changed the right bar-end out for a 10-speed indexed Shimano BS79 shifter I took a look at that shifter and one thing let to another until I was looking at the Shimano SL-BSR1. I hadn’t thought I could get an 11-speed group with bar ends. That’s tempting, though I would be giving up the friction option. Like you say, it’s only a twist of the adjustment barrel every so often to tweak it. But, then again, after reading the comments after yours, I wonder whether I would be better off with the standard 3x9 from Riv. I do like the gearing on that. Thanks. Tim On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Tim Gavin <[email protected]> wrote: > Tim- > > *Regarding cable loops*: there are several ways to run the shift cables > with bar-end shifters. > > You can have the cables run in separate loops that stick out in front of > the head tube, with partial wrap or even no wrap at all. These big loops > put the least friction on the shift cable, but they can get in the way of a > bag on top of the front wheel. > > Or, you can wrap the cables under the tape up to the top of the bars, and > then have them exit and loop down do the cable stops on the down tube. > This method puts a couple more bends in the housing (possibly adding > friction) but keeps the cables out of the way of bags in front. > > > *Regarding brifters on Randonneur (or other flared bars)*: I find that > the flare of the bar actually makes it EASIER to operate the shift paddle > on brifters. My wrists hurt less because the angle is less severe. I've > used old Shimano, old Campy, and new SRAM brifters on Nitto Randonneur > B135s and Salsa Cowchipper bars without issues. > > > *Regarding 10 speeds with friction bar-ends*: I've successfully shifted > a 9-speed cassette with Silver shifters, it wasn't that tricky. Move the > lever until the chain moves, then stop. Friction allows you to fine-tune > the derailer trim easily. > > That said, when I changed my Riv over to a 10-speed cassette, I changed > the right bar-end out for a 10-speed indexed Shimano BS79 shifter. I > really like the crisp, exact index action, and it only takes a turn or two > on the cable adjustment barrel once a year or so to keep the indexing tuned > perfectly. > > I found that I liked the indexed bar-end so much that I switched the > 9-speed bar-end on my vintage Schwinn KOM over from "friction" to "SIS". > > Caveat: if you want a 10-speed bar-end that can do both friction and > indexed, you need to use the last-generation BS78 shifter. The > current-generation BS79 shifter looks the same but has no friction option. > > > *Regarding your bike choice*: I'm #225 and very happy with my Roadeo (I > picked up a used 2010 frame from a listmember this winter). It rides great > and is not noodly. > > But, the Roadeo is my 5th bike and is my least-ridden, because I've set it > up without racks, bags, or fenders. My Riv Road Standard has a slightly > heavier-gauge frame (753 vs TT OX Platinum), and is probably more similar > to an AHH than a Roadeo. I ride my Riv Road Standard a lot, and it has > fenders, a front mini-rack with a rando bag for commuting and short trips, > and a Nitto R20 rack for when I tour. > > I think the AHH or Sam H would be a great choice for your described use. > I like John's suggestion of a second wheelset if you only have one bike. > > > Cheers, > Tim > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Tim Butterfield < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Doug, >> >> Security is somewhat of a worry. The bike is just outside of our RV door >> and our German Shepherd barks at most things that move around us. Noisy >> gravel provides some alert for movement outside. There is a covered cabana >> with a picnic table in it. A Topeak cover is over the bike and it is cable >> locked through the frame to a cabana corner post. The bottom of the wheels >> show, but not much else. For a Riv, I would upgrade to a U-Lock through a >> padded chain through the frame and a set of Pitlocks. >> >> I was reading some of the product descriptions and comments on Riv for >> the shifters. Though not official supported in the product description, >> the comments indicate some have managed to get them working with 10 >> speeds. If I decide to go that route, I would have to ask Riv if they >> would build it that way. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:50 PM, dougP <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Tim: >>> >>> How secure is your RV park? I would hesitate to lock any bike outside >>> like that unless it's well hidden & secure. >>> >>> As to shifters, DTs do look clean & classy, & bar ends are nice too. You >>> may ponder your desire for an eleventh gear. 9 or 10 may be enough, and >>> opens up your choices in shifters. 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