Patrick,
Hi.  It’s been a while since we chatted on the Minimal list.  I see you’re
still enjoying your Riv and have added another to the stable.  That’s
great.  I think it was a comment you had made quite a while back.  I came
across it while searching the group and it made me think of the versatility
of the AHH.  Comments by others have added to that view.  Thanks for that.

> And all the mind-spinning fretting I did would have been far easier if
I'd just spoken to Grant and Co. once and let them run with it and ridden
what they sent me.

I’ve thought of that also.  But, if I did that, would it really be mine or
still theirs?  I think I need to personalize it a bit and make it mine to
be more mentally invested in it.

Thanks for the the ideas.

Tim

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Deacon Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:

> "are there still benefits to the more traditional setups?"
> Absolutely. A Riv setup is brilliant, simple, and easily adjusted/fixed in
> field if needed. More importantly, they ride fantastically, and that
> matters for every distance. I haven't ridden the bikes you have, but the
> non-rive bikes I've ridden don't even compare to the "invisible" wonder of
> my Riv. bikes (Hunqapillar and Quickbeam). The ride, for me, is far more
> fun, no matter the distance.
>
> "If I pick either one, what might I later miss the other may have
> provided?"
> Grant's bikes have an inherently wide window of usability, which is
> utterly counter to the niche purposing of most modern bikes. That said, the
> Rodeo likely has the smallest window. I've heard it said the Quickbeam fits
> somewhere between the Rodeo and AHH. Presuming that is true, the window I
> ride the QB on ranges from smooth fast paved roads to remote and medium
> rough forest service roads/trails. I've taken it on more technical trails
> and it is definitely under biking, and fun in its own way as a "hone my
> skills" adventure. For myself, I'd choose the AHH.
>
> "Are there likely to be any weather related or other wear issues leaving a
> Riv locked to the RV park cabana like I do my AWOL?"
> I live in dry (as in not humid often) Colorado mountains. However, my
> Hunqapillar lives outside without cover on all bikepacking trips, a
> stunning number of which are half rain (enough that the tent fly is always
> wet). So far so good. Use frame saver, cover as you can, and enjoy!
>
> "I'm doubtful of that, but don't want to mistreat it either."
> It's a bike. Enjoy it. Use it. It will age wonderfully based on how you
> do. The only way to mistreat it is to not use it! Grin.
>
> "Any thing else I should consider?"
> Indubitably. Ultimately, however, the answer is to get the best match you
> can and ride and learn from there. The experience will teach you more than
> the mind-spinning fretting beforehand. And all the mind-spinning fretting I
> did would have been far easier if I'd just spoken to Grant and Co. once and
> let them run with it and ridden what they sent me. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 8:38:33 PM UTC-6, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>>
>> My questions to the group are these:  As I am not yet doing longer
>> distances, are there still benefits to the more traditional setups?  If I
>> pick either one, what might I later miss the other may have provided?  Are
>> there likely to be any weather related or other wear issues leaving a Riv
>> locked to the RV park cabana like I do my AWOL?  I'm doubtful of that, but
>> don't want to mistreat it either.  Any thing else I should consider?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice you have.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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