Nope, I think ALL new bikes and frames come in cardboard boxes, the days of
wood crates are behind us.

You can always ask your local shop or even target/walmart, etc to let you
watch the unboxing process.    A packed bike will look exactly the same,
brand doesn't matter.    You would be amazed at how little packing material
there is.   But you will notice that its all one piece, lots of zip ties.
Most of your shipping damage will come from parts moving around and
scratching your frame, make it one big piece and things wont move.    There
isn't much disassembly to do.   You only remove the front wheel (and
fender), pedals, seat and stem/bars.    Front racks come off, rear racks
depends on size.   Get the box for free, wrap the frame tubes with pipe
wrap, secure wheels and bars into a one piece unit.    Drop it in the box,
brace the sides with extra cardboard.   Its helpful to sometimes get 2 free
boxes.    Put the saddle and pedals into a small box and pop it in the
corner on the bike box.

Something else to look into is the two small box approach of frame in one
box and wheels/fenders in box number 2.

The most important part, tape the box up tight and REMOVE all old shipping
labels.    Seriously, you don't want you bike to end up back at the asian
factory or at the shop that gave you the free box.   This probably was more
important in the eyeball days, modern bar codes shouldn't let this happen,
but...

>From experience with part time college work back in the day, nothing says
"abuse me" more than a black plastic shipping case.   Contents don't
matter, it you bought he shipping container, it must be super durable.
Musical instruments get it much worse than bikes, bike cases are on the
edge of too big to throw.

Back to the OP, a 58cm isn't too big at all.   Ask the shop for a L or XL
mountainbike box and you can probably leave the rear rack and fender on.
Scott



On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Bob Ehrenbeck <reeh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply, Doug. (And that's also a good idea regarding the
> dimension stenciling.)
>
> Like Matt, I'm also a bit uneasy about putting my bike in a cardboard box.
> Maybe I'm just paranoid, as of course lots of brand new bikes are shipped
> that way (although they probably do a better job packing than me).
>
> I guess it's a toss-up between peace of mind vs. less disassembly.
>
> Bob E
> (who's still waiting on that Star Trek transporter to be developed.)
>
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