> Me thinks I missed it or you be making up stuff. Usually on this site when people disagree they avoid getting personal. Me thinks you missed that.
Do a search on this site. When the Roadeo was first announced, Grant himself posted here and said specifically it was a bike he probably would not have designed were it not for avid support of his club racing employee. Even without the posts from Grant himself, the bike is designed for drops and has no braze ons for racks. Look at all the other bikes in the current and past line up. In fact, the primary thing that makes the Roadeo a Riv? As pointed out in the Catalog and on the Riv site - lugged steel. (and again, lugs are mentioned multiple times in the catalog.) On Dec 11, 6:09 pm, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > There is no place I found in the catalogue Grant says anything about > the Roadeo being out there from a Riv perspective. > > Me thinks I missed it or you be making up stuff. > > On Dec 11, 12:11 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > Headtubes on BLT and BLTaiwans are short... > > > Geometry is close to the Hilborne. > > > > But it does look as if little old BG is sourcing his own upjutting > > > Salsa (old) quill stems. > > > Bruce has been making quill stems long before there was a Salsa. His > > is a heavy duty design. But guess what, delicate Nitto's fit in the > > head tube as well. > > > > Bet the BLTaiwans weigh a ton. Don't want a tank. Want an all around > > > 700c. > > > I expect you would lose that bet. BG says the BLT uses same tubing as > > the Rock n' Road. Given its formidable strength, the R'n'R is a > > surprisingly light bike. I am sure the BLT would be equally adroit as > > a day to day 700 as a tourer. > > > > Let's call it a tigged Roadeo with Vbrakes, powder and a headbadge. > > > See the Riv Catalogue link John at Riv just posted. Grant describes > > the Roadeo as being way out there from a Riv perspective. (The > > catalogue also gives prominent props to lugs by the way) Yet you think > > dropping the lugs and changing the geometry would be in his comfort > > range? > > > On Dec 11, 1:35 pm, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > > > > Headtubes on BLT and BLTaiwans are short... > > > > But it does look as if little old BG is sourcing his own upjutting > > > Salsa (old) quill stems. > > > > Bet the BLTaiwans weigh a ton. Don't want a tank. Want an all around > > > 700c. Let's call it a tigged Roadeo with Vbrakes, powder and a > > > headbadge. > > > > On Dec 11, 11:28 am, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote: > > > > > There are still millions upon millions of bikes out there with > > > > threaded headsets, many of them owned by people of limited means who > > > > will need to fix them rather than buy a new bike. Ditto for bikes with > > > > freewheels. That's why it's still possible to buy freewheels in this > > > > age of cassettes c and why it will be possible for some time to find > > > > traditional threaded headsets. They just may not be Record or DuraAce > > > > quality. > > > > > On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:03 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > > > >> Threaded stems and headsets are pretty much obsolete on new- > > > > >> production > > > > >> bikes, and the number of threaded stem/headset options is small and > > > > >> getting smaller. There are a few holdouts, like Riv and some custom > > > > >> shops, but I think even they see the writing on the wall (Legolas was > > > > >> threadless, and Roadeo apparently has a threadless option). > > > > > > More like catering to the tastes of the intended audience than seeing > > > > > the handwriting on the wall. If it were the latter, wouldn't you > > > > > expect > > > > > the frames designed since the Legolas (such as the Hillborne, Foy, > > > > > etc) > > > > > to similarly acknowledge the presence of said handwriting? > > > > > >> As individuals, we can deal with obsolete or obscure parts with ebay > > > > >> and other small sources. But a bike manufacturer, who needs to order > > > > >> hundreds or thousands of headsets per year has to consider the risks > > > > >> of not having enough headsets for this year, and for service in years > > > > >> to come. > > > > > > It appears that Velo Orange, far smaller than most bike manufacturers, > > > > > had no difficulty sourcing high quality threaded headsets for the VO > > > > > brand. 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