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Scroll down a bit - Nitto's got it covered. On Dec 11, 4:31 pm, eflayer <[email protected]> wrote: > there is currently a void in market with the demise of the Salsa SUL > open face quill. Not sure, but maybe VO is gonna fill it. But for > me, theyr represented a fine looking, strong alternative to the lovely > Nitto. Someone should bring em back. Maybe Riv: > > http://www.ison-distribution.com/ison/image/full/qssa-crmo-sul.jpg > > On Dec 11, 4:01 pm, newenglandbike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The trouble with adjusting bars w/threadless on the go is that > > sometimes it can be hard to get the compression right with threadless, > > especially if you are using needle-bearings, which can be touchy > > IME. With threaded you don't have that issue, you can just dial-in > > your headset once and then adjust the bars to your heart's content. > > > On Dec 11, 6:20 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Most threadless stems/headsets require only a 5 mm allen to change the > > > height. Quick and easy. You can do it while on a ride. > > > > On Dec 11, 4:39 pm, James Warren <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is marginally on-topic I guess, because it's mentioned in the > > > > latest Rivendell catalog, but I just want to briefly point out that the > > > > quill stem has been important to me because of the ease of bar height > > > > adjustment WHILE OUT ON A RIDE. I should have made that distinction > > > > clear. I won't go into why I've needed to adjust during rides, because > > > > then we'd open a can of off-topic worms. I'm not trying to win an > > > > argument here; I just wanted to point out why a quill has been > > > > necessary...for me. > > > > > -Jim W. > > > > > p.s. Thanks for the information on working with the threadless system. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Dec 11, 2009 5:06 PM > > > > >To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> > > > > >Subject: [RBW] Re: Now threaded steer tube (was lug vs. tig) > > > > > >I hear this again and again, but it's just not true. Threadless allows > > > > >easy adjustment of bar height if the steerer isn't cut too short. > > > > >That's the real problem - too short steerers. If you start with a full- > > > > >length steerer, say 300 mm, and a typical 58 cm frame, you can > > > > >generally get the bars at or above saddle height without having a > > > > >severe up-angle stem, steerer extender, etc. > > > > > >If it takes 1 minute to adjust the bar height with a quill stem, then > > > > >it probably takes two minutes to do it with a threadless set-up, and > > > > >requires the same tools (allen wrench(es)). Most likely, you won't > > > > >have to do it too many times, so the extra minutes don't add up to > > > > >much. > > > > > >Benefits of threadless to the end-user are: easy handlebar/stem swaps > > > > >later (no need to peel bar tape or remove levers), added stiffness (an > > > > >issue with heavily loaded bikes and bikes that ride on rough terrain), > > > > >and I suppose it's lighter (not that I care). Also, headset bearing > > > > >adjustment is easier and requires simpler tools with threadless. > > > > >Benefit to bike shops and manufacturers: No need to manufacture/stock > > > > >8 different forks for 8 different frame sizes. > > > > > >I own/ride a bunch of bikes, and a lot of them have quill stems, which > > > > >is fine. But I personally would not select a quill stem over > > > > >threadless if there was an option. > > > > > >On Dec 11, 3:42 pm, James Warren <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I don't agree that threadless is demonstrably better. For me, the > > > > >> benefits of easy bar height adjustability outweighs all the other > > > > >> stuff combined. > > > > > >> A less signficant, but still real, thing that the quill offers is a > > > > >> good place to attach the type of bell I like to use. > > > > > >> -Jim W. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> >From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <[email protected]> > > > > >> >Well, having a special run of parts made is more difficult than > > > > >> >using > > > > >> >something that is already available with probably 100 variants from > > > > >> >which to choose. And if the modern, widely available version is > > > > >> >demonstrably an improvement over the antiquated version that > > > > >> >requires > > > > >> >a special production run, then the question becomes: why bother? > > > > > >-- > > > > > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > >Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > >[email protected]. > > > > >For more options, visit this group > > > > >athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted > > > > >text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
