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> On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:12 AM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Google Groups > Today's topic summary > View all topics > Cheap Clem substitutes?. - 12 Updates > Maryland area supported Century rides and also unsupported Brevets this > spring, summer and fall 2016. - 3 Updates > New Drivetrain Setup on the Hunqapillar - 5 Updates > FS : 60cm SimpleOne / Multi-Speedable / Clear Powdercoat > F/F/HS/BB/Wheels/Fenders - 1 Update > f/s - new in package Grand Bois toe straps, butterscotch yellow - 1 Update > Will Rosco see the light of day? - 3 Updates > Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs - 13 Updates > FS: Nitto Saddlebag Grip and Waxed Canvas Rain Cape - 1 Update > Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone? - 5 Updates > FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm - 3 Updates > Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not - 7 Updates > Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting - 6 > Updates > Roscoe B - 4 Updates > Elite "L'Eroica" bar mount cage/s - 1 Update > Getting the message out. - 2 Updates > Cheap Clem substitutes?. > Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:27PM -0600 > > After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is kosher > for this list. But I think it is; it has to do with my desire to get a fat > tired bike with large bb drop for my daughter. ...more > Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:42PM -0600 > > Forgot to add: others have suggested: Isla bike; VO Piolet. > > Lowish bb very useful. Again, fat and tall tires. > > > > *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle > ...more > Frank Brose <fkbr...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:23PM -0700 > > Might be packing a little to much in the backpack don't you think Patrick? > I have an older early 90'S Cannondale Red Shred set up Nitto dirt Drop stem > and moustache bars, blackburn rear rack and ...more > Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:45PM -0700 > > You're reverse-engineering what Grant did by creating the Clem. He made a > semi-TIGed lower-cost Riv for people who've been scouring Craigslist for > late-'80s/early-'90s mtbs, then spending more than ...more > Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:59PM -0700 > > My advice is that if your daughter wants to ride with you, and your > daughter has a bike, why not just ride with your daughter? Her current > bike sounds fine. If there is something that makes her ...more > Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com>: Apr 25 05:27PM -0700 > > +1 for ride whatcha got. That will teach her a lot (and you as well), and > may motivate her to know what she wants and work out how she's going to > work toward it. I also sent you a PM. > ...more > Edwin W <dweenda...@hotmail.com>: Apr 25 06:15PM -0700 > > I agree with what everyone else is leaning toward: ride what you got. Bring > her into the process. Does she want to change one component, such as cockpit > (I know, several components) pedals, saddle or ...more > Utah <scottamcl...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 03:53PM -0700 > > My daughter rides a Surly Cross Check. High bottom bracket but takes wide > tires. The low handle bars don't bother her young bones one bit. > > > > On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 4:28:06 PM UTC-6, ...more > Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 06:27PM -0700 > > It's real easy to turn a kid's interest in going for a ride into a new bike > project for us to fiddle with. Which is great if the kid is on board, but > more often than not they're fine with the one they ...more > Belopsky <belopolsky.i...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 06:47PM -0700 > > Do you have a budget in mind? Do you already have parts? A Piolet build > will not be cheaper than a Clem, especially with the pre-order right now, > unless you have parts to build up the Piolet. > ...more > Mark in Beacon <freelance...@yahoo.com>: Apr 26 04:37AM -0700 > > The problem, as laid out I believe in the wonderful Clem brochure, or maybe > in one of the blug posts, is that making a vintage bike work well is often > expensive, even as the bikes themselves ...more > Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>: Apr 26 07:08AM -0700 > > A Brooklyn is another option. I don't know if Grant is still involved with > the company but he was at one point, and his design ideas like low bottom > brackets should be present here. > > ...more > Back to top > Maryland area supported Century rides and also unsupported Brevets this > spring, summer and fall 2016. > Tim <tim.ki...@yahoo.com>: Apr 25 07:54PM -0700 > > I'll put a plug in for DC Randonneurs. They're wonderful folks. I did my 200k > and 300k there last year and spent time at PBP with some of them. > ...more > Alan Pickett <youbetyourbi...@gmail.com>: Apr 26 03:53AM -0700 > > Hey - BIG thanks for posting this. > > We usually use a fall century as a little motivation to get out and enjoy > some long rides in the summer, and this comes right on time. > > I'm also looking ...more > kielsun <bobk...@gmail.com>: Apr 26 06:27AM -0700 > > I'm in the Baltimore area and would definitely like to connect with some > folks who are on the "just ride" side of things this summer. I stopped by > Gravel and Grind a couple of weeks back to snag ...more > Back to top > New Drivetrain Setup on the Hunqapillar > Keith Muller <pharmer...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 05:23PM -0700 > > Mark, > > Tire clearance is pretty good. don't have any issues with tire rub on the > frame. I am currently building an Atlantis up, so it will be interesting > to see the difference in tire ...more > Keith Muller <pharmer...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 05:24PM -0700 > > Mark, > > Tire clearance is pretty good. don't have any issues with tire rub on the > frame. I am currently building an Atlantis up, so it will be interesting > to see the difference in tire ...more > Keith Muller <pharmer...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 05:29PM -0700 > > Brian, > > I came by my Hunqapillar second hand. It came with a 27.2 seatpost that > fit pretty tight. I ended up having to ream the seat tube so the seatpost > could be adjusted without needing ...more > Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 09:10PM -0700 > > Not a 100 percent tangent, but I bought a nice carbon mountain bike. I picked > the best frame with mediocre parts (deore 2x10). I just bought an XTR > drivetrain for it from chain reaction (also 2x10). ...more > Ginz <theg...@gmail.com>: Apr 26 06:43AM -0700 > > I have a 2x10 hard tail and I like it. This is coming from a guy who was > holding onto 9sp rapid rise like the last drop of water on earth. > > I don't think I'd like a 1x drivetrain because it takes ...more > Back to top > FS : 60cm SimpleOne / Multi-Speedable / Clear Powdercoat > F/F/HS/BB/Wheels/Fenders > "S. Greco" <steven.gr...@gmail.com>: Apr 26 06:09AM -0700 > > Price now includes the Nitto mini front rack and Wald basket. > ...more > Back to top > f/s - new in package Grand Bois toe straps, butterscotch yellow > Ron Mc <bulldog...@gmail.com>: Apr 26 04:33AM -0700 > > I ordered a set of Grand Bois toe straps for my daughter's bike and they > are butterscotch yellow, which would totally clash on her bike. > These are quality, replicas of Bianchi Dino (Alfredo ...more > Back to top > Will Rosco see the light of day? > Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 11:16AM -0700 > > Oh snap! The point had been completely lost on me that those of you who > bought a Rosco Bubbe were buying for yourself a $1050 made in the USA > frameset. It being ordered from Waterford. > > ...more > Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 11:29AM -0700 > > Well dang. I missed it, too! > ...more > Lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 11:30PM -0700 > > Shoulda listened to yer Uncle Ethan! > ...more > Back to top > Richard Sachs on the original Riv lugs > Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 08:33AM -0700 > > Richard Sachs posted a short little description today of how the original > Rivendell lugs came into being. Turns out Grant commissioned them while he > was still at Bridgestone, but Bridgestone USA ...more > Tim Gavin <tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com>: Apr 25 10:36AM -0500 > > Cool post. > > I'm happy that I have a Rivendell Road Standard, made at Wateford using > these lugs. > > > > > > ...more > Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 01:02PM -0600 > > .... and a much inferior photo of the head tube lugs on my '99 Joe Starck > custom: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tim Gavin <tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com> > wrote: > ...more > Esteban <proto...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 01:10PM -0700 > > My '99 coupled Road Custom: > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8ihtBRlP1ss/Vx55mbTrO_I/AAAAAAAAAIU/_cpM0FeWwKoOT9ShAxq_X-R_7W3qhQg9QCLcB/s1600/5272017934_c8a2affa2b_z.jpg> > > > On Monday, April ...more > Esteban <proto...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 01:11PM -0700 > > Sorry - I should have said this is by Joe Stark > > On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 1:10:44 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: > ...more > James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net>: Apr 25 01:45PM -0700 > > Probably one of the last frames made with the original Riv lugs! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...more > Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com>: Apr 25 01:50PM -0700 > > My ’97 Starck-built Riv Road. > > > > --Eric Norris > campyonly...@me.com > www.campyonly.com > campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > > ...more > Jim Bronson <jim.bron...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:44PM -0500 > > I need to get my bike repainted, that's all there is to it. You guys' > bikes are so pretty! > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > signature goes here > ...more > Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:10PM -0600 > > Very pretty green with cream. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, ...more > WETH <erlhous...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 03:22PM -0700 > > This is very interesting. Which frames were built (are still) with these > lugs? ( I have a Riv Road Stnd that appears to have these.) > ...more > Ryan Fleming <ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:15PM -0700 > > I think the road standards...all-rounders and expeditions are plainer., > still nice but not RS.....were long-lows even around then? > > On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 5:22:07 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote: > ...more > Jan Heine <hein...@earthlink.net>: Apr 25 07:30PM -0700 > > To me, still one of the prettiest lug design ever. It's fancy and playful, > yet tasteful. > > As to timeline, all the early Rivendells used them. Mine was built in early > 1999, and was one of the ...more > Lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 10:44PM -0700 > > I think Rivendell lugs are the prettiest on the planet. > > Rivendell just makes the most beautiful looking bikes on earth. > ...more > Back to top > FS: Nitto Saddlebag Grip and Waxed Canvas Rain Cape > Michael Ullmer <mjull...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 09:46PM -0700 > > Rain cape sold! > > On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 10:11:35 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote: > ...more > Back to top > Boscoe and Rambouillet Pics Anyone? > allenmichael <allenmich...@mac.com>: Apr 25 01:52PM -0700 > > Does anyone in the community have a picture of a Rambouillet with Bosco's? > I picked up the Eugene Orange Rambouillet with the shrunken stack, and I'm > planning to put it together with a set of ...more > iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 02:58PM -0700 > > I'm thinking you want Albatross bars for this - not Bosco. Or maybe the > Choco? > > I haven't tried the setup you're describing, but I have a 60cm Ram with > noodles, and a 59cm Clem with boscos. ...more > Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 04:53PM -0700 > > I very much agree with Keith. The only way a Bosco works on a Ram is if you > bought one so big that the saddles rests on the toptube. It ain't gon happen. > ...more > iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 07:20PM -0700 > > I did just remember this, in case you're still bent on trying to imagine > what it will look like. This fellow put boscos on a quickbeam, right after > the bars were released. > ...more > Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 07:59PM -0700 > > Hey, that's me! I did have Bosco Bullmoose bars on my Quickbeam for about > a year, and yes, it did feel very short, although the setback seatpost > helped. They later got switched out for ...more > Back to top > FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm > Cal Good <goodhouse....@gmail.com>: Apr 25 05:41PM -0700 > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9VuaHrxyl7A/Vx65GjeBNaI/AAAAAAAAAAc/U8tp8BrxdMwF48T8HZoVDZi9VPiYWj-GQCLcB/s1600/IMG_2664.JPG> > For Sale: 60cm Rivendell Quickbeam > > -Early 2000's model, made by ...more > Esteban <proto...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 07:04PM -0700 > > Someone should buy this ASAP!!! > ...more > Tim <tim.ki...@yahoo.com>: Apr 25 07:58PM -0700 > > Boy am I ever glad he doesn't want to ship! It's really flat here in > Louisville and I've wanted a QB or SimpleOne. > ...more > Back to top > Cotton Bar Tape - To Pad, Or Not > Mattt <mattto...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 08:24AM -0700 > > I second your decision. I have cotton bar tape with no padding provides a > better feel. > > If you don't like the tape setup it will only cost you 10 bucks in tape to > change. > ...more > "Evan E." <evanellio...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 10:58AM -0700 > > Frank, > > To further muddy the waters, I suggest you consider polyurethane instead of > shellac. > > I like shellac, but a few weeks ago when I was running low on shellac, I > recalled that a list ...more > drew <drewbeckme...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 11:25AM -0700 > > im really interested in the poly option. i love the look and durability > shellac, but im not a fan of the hard crust, and slippery feel in rain. > how long does that polyurethane to dry and how many ...more > masmojo <masm...@sbcglobal.net>: Apr 25 12:31PM -0700 > > If you are going to put shellac or urethane, a lot of padding won't work > anywayz; the tape will be squishy & the shellac will crack. I have some > scraps of a rubbery tape(neoprene ?) I used several ...more > Brian Campbell <bdcampbel...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 01:27PM -0700 > > I too like just one layer of cotton tape. I put some shellac on to keep it > from getting too dirty. You can also do 2 layers of cotton tape to get a > bit more of a "cush" factor. Just remember if ...more > "Evan E." <evanellio...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 02:07PM -0700 > > Drew: > > The PolyWhey polyurethane takes just two hours to dry. But I let it dry > overnight: safe side. > > Before my first ride, in a rainstorm, I had just one coat of urethane on my > ...more > Frank Conway <frankjcon...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 05:13PM -0700 > > Thanks for the other option, Evan. I'll keep that in mind for next time. For > now I've ordered yellow Newbaum's and will be going with amber shellac. I > rode a bit with a guy on a recent 100k and he ...more > Back to top > Executive Fatlantis riding, Albatross musings, Carradice front-mounting > > Esteban <proto...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 08:09AM -0700 > > Looks like a fun day. I'm ready to transfer Albatross bars to a 54cm > Waterford Hunqa currently in frame/fork mode, and try 2.3 tires front and > rear. I'm also deciding between 1x or 2x vs. ...more > ian m <darkgizz...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 08:46AM -0700 > > I've been using the longflap on my Pass & Stow rack as the Clem makes it > difficult to use my rear rack and a saddlebag. Saddlestraps attach really > nicely on Bullmoose bars and the seatpost strap ...more > Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com>: Apr 25 09:26AM -0700 > > Sweet! I am really looking forward to single track again! As a rule, our > trails are under snow for another month. Given we got over two feet of snow > recently (a week ago?), I suspect they are ...more > Andrew Patteson <andrewpatte...@waterfordschool.org>: Apr 25 10:44AM -0700 > > Wow, the ride sounds amazing and the bike looks great too! Thanks for > posting; I feel inspired/jealous. :) > > Do you have corroplast or something like that in the bottom of the bag to > ...more > Mark Reimer <marknrei...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 11:24AM -0700 > > Kieran, the bag is only attached on the bars and the tombstone. I used a > longer strap on the tombstone that intertwines with the rack, preventing it > from lifting off the tombstone if I hit a big ...more > Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 05:01PM -0600 > > It sounds like an idyllic day. I feel your pain about headwinds: today's > here in ABQ (spring windy season) has gusts to 40 mph -- and the wind > couldn't make up its mind about where to blow from. ...more > Back to top > Roscoe B > El Sapo <charlesreese...@comcast.net>: Apr 25 08:12AM -0700 > > I think Rosco would be a great bike for an alfine setup. Maybe even single > speed. This Rock Lobster has been on my mind for a while > http://www.rocklobstercycles.com/frames/other/ > ...more > iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 11:41AM -0700 > > Funny you should mention Rock Lobster. There's yet another Paul Sadoff > creation that I've been admiring for quite a long while, and that has had > me seriously considering as a template for a ...more > El Sapo <charlesreese...@comcast.net>: Apr 25 01:01PM -0700 > > I don't know what it is about curved top tubes, seat stays and that bubba > tube. Any combination, I just like the looks of it. The RB looks huge and > it really isn't. > > You could easily bring the ...more > Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 02:00PM -0700 > > The RB has a straight top tube, which makes the bike look more like that Kona > with the really long name. I've always dug that bike, and I really dig Bubbe. > ...more > Back to top > Elite "L'Eroica" bar mount cage/s > Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 12:35PM -0600 > > Has anyone used this? Do 2 full bottles make the bar flop excessively? Does > it rattle? > > ...more > Back to top > Getting the message out. > BenG <bguthri...@gmail.com>: Apr 25 08:53AM -0700 > > I share a locker room with bradley (round) sinks and a floor fan, no showers. > Muggy mornings arrive early, take off sweaty cotton, put on dry merino and > cotton, then douse head in sink, towel off. ...more > masmojo <masm...@sbcglobal.net>: Apr 25 09:04AM -0700 > > Regarding the shower, it's a nice luxury, but not a deal killer for me. I > commuted by bike for many years in Texas (Austin, Houston, Dallas) when I did > not have a car or even when I did. ...more > Back to top > You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. > You can change your settings on the group membership page. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
