Mark, that's funny-- I used to ride with the ABC guys, too (but not in about 8 
or more years now). I remember the president being a really tall guy named 
Doug. He rode one of those wacky Ti Colnago's with the double down tube and 
there was a mix of what I'd consider Bobish types and common Freds. I, at the 
time was an absolute Fred in the heyday of my racing days so I was always 
amused by the "old" dudes on the old bikes ... 

As for the unsolicited comments: it wasn't until I bought my first 650b bike 
and read some of the cyclotouring/rando history articles in BQ that I came to 
realize just how little I really knew about cycling. 

Last time I did a club ride (three summers ago) I was on my "old" Giant TCR and 
23's. I had already drank the 650b x 42 cool aid at that point but was at the 
shore and bored and figured what the hell .... well, the group leader (a bike 
shop manager) gave me grief over not having my tires inflated enough. I took a 
deep breath and thought "wow, really?" and proceeded to discuss the pro trend 
towards bigger tires (like, even 25's) -- he thought I was crazy but I insisted 
bigger tires were in his future as a shop guy. The blank stare back was 
priceless …

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