Dear René,

To your experience: Yup.
To your questions: Yup.
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:53:09 PM UTC-6, René wrote:
>
> I used to ride clipless pedals with the proper cycling shoes since I 
> started mountain biking as an adult in Venezuela. Learned how to do it, 
> didn't fall when stopping, and ate the whole sales pitch about how you had 
> to be clipped in to ride effectively. When I move to the SF Bay Area and 
> started road riding, I continued except that now I had road shoes and 
> cleats for the road bike and SPD shoes and cleats for the mountain bike. 
> Geometry, fit and constant pain drove me to seek an alternative and I 
> discovered RBW and got my Homer. 
>
> A new world of possibilities opened, but still had pain and still rode 
> clipless pedals although by that time, had ditched the road versions and 
> just used SPDs. The Atlantis was added, the Hunqapillar was added, the 
> Betty was added, Low Trail forks were added to the Atlantis & Hunqapillar, 
> the Hunqapillar was sold and some periods of no riding also ensued 
> intermixed with all this; you've read the story in other posts. At some 
> point during this evolution, stumped by the pain on my feet (primarily left 
> foot with strong suspicion of having a Morton's neuroma, I tried flat 
> pedals, first the RBW offerings to no avail. Finally, looking for a wide 
> platform even after trying the one RBW sold, I discovered the DMR Vault 
> pedals and started trying those with less pain/more success while still 
> using fairly rigid FiveTen MTB shoes. Any time I tried riding with more 
> flexible shoes, severe pain would develop. Still riding the platform pedals 
> with the FiveTen shoes resulted in significantly less pain than any other 
> prior option I had tried.
>
> Last year in May I went Primal (LCHF/EBDJ) and lost 40 lbs between May and 
> October. Then plateaued and had a hard time being strict, but was still 
> eating primarily LCHF with a few isolated relapses. Hardly rode my bikes at 
> all until the end of the year. 
>
> It was at this time that I made an accidental discovery that is puzzling 
> me as to its cause: as I was doing my LCHF diet change, I discovered Altra 
> shoes, which work on the premise of having a large toe box and zero drop to 
> make the foot work like it's supposed to, and made a case for why regular 
> shoes weaken the foot. I got both Altra sneakers (running shoes although I 
> don't run) and their business casual model, and only wore those. When I 
> started riding, for some reason I cannot remember, I went on a ride with my 
> Altra sneakers and discovered that I could ride those flexible shoes with 
> no pain at all, in fact, it was much more comfortable to ride wearing them 
> than to ride wearing the FiveTen shoes. I couldn't understand it. I was 
> placing the middle of my foot on the pedal, but I was on flexible shoes!
>
> Started riding in december and over the next few months kept it up and 
> tailored the fit on the Atlantis, the Betty and now the Homer to the point 
> where I am basically pain free until the rides hit the 2 hour mark, at 
> which point the neck and left shoulder start becoming a bit sore. Have 
> increased my mileage comfortably and my riding time and somewhere in the 
> last month, I discovered that my foot "migrated" spontaneously from the 
> middle of the arch over the pedal to the ball of the foot over the pedal 
> with no negative effects. Actually, I think it resulted from my effort to 
> focus on riding at higher cadences, which seem to be easier on the ball of 
> the foot than on the middle of the foot.
>
> Two weeks ago I decided to see what would happen if I rode clipless again, 
> so I installed the pedals and pulled out my Specialized BG wide shoes. 
> Needless to say, my foot feels constrained and "locked", although the rides 
> have been mostly pain free, albeit with some discomfort. Primarily it feels 
> as if my foot is detached from the pedal, and the rigid sole doesn't feel 
> good anymore. Going back to the flat pedals and more flexible shoes feels 
> much better.
>
> Have my feet gotten stronger and have improved their function from the 
> months of walking with the very flexible wide Altra shoes with zero drop 
> (sort of minimalistic, but not quite extreme) coupled with the supposedly 
> reduced inflammation derived from the diet changes? If so, will attempting 
> to ride with cycling rigid shoes and clipless pedals harm this process and 
> I should just completely stay on flat pedals with comfortable shoes? I have 
> yet to explore riding with sandals, but as the weather warms up I'm 
> certainly looking forward to that option as well. 
>
> Thoughts and insights welcome!
>
> René 
>

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