Thanks Ryan! On the Atlantis I'm actually using a Brooks leather mudflap because I had it and like it in brown. On the Hunqapillar, I actually had the Berthoud in black; it's even thicker and larger than the Brooks. Fit well with the 60mm Berthoud fenders I had on it, but I think it's overkill. The Brooks are actually very nice and a bit lighter. They also fit better on 50mm and under fenders. Haven't tried them on Honjos, though, I wonder if they're still too heavy for the lighter aluminum fenders. I saw the Honjo mudguards at NAHBS, but haven't been able to find them; they're smaller and much lighter, although only come in black and not real leather.
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