Looks like the content is gone here. Got my chocos today. To my measurements, 
they are swept back about 2-3cm further than albatross bars. unmounted, they 
seem very long, but I guess you get a lot more useable grip area that way. I 
never found the curves of albatross' to be useable. The curves of these seem 
more comfortably positioned. As grant described, the rise/drop is negligable, 
though I think I'll try them in the downward position. Interested to see how 
the length works with bar end shifters. 

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