I think Deacon has it about right. If you look at the Riv PDF Clem Brochure <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRNjFld2JBLVUzY3M/view> and scroll to the bottom, you will find a discussion of how to load the Clementine to avoid excess flex. Now the Clementine is not exactly a mixte, but the same principles apply. Basically it says to avoid a high heavy rear load.
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 9:25:32 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Bill, > > (Someone check me if I'm wrong): The challenge with mixte is they are > weakest with torque. This doesn't mean weak, but I could imagine that a > high, rear load would tend to easily magnify the torque (my Hunq begins to > feel this around 40 pounts on top of the rear rack -- on roads, on trails > roughly 20) The challenge with a 36# bag of dog food is loading it. It has > to go up top, in back. and it's a wide semi-loose load. I'd say try it at > home and see. You'll know quick. Perhaps the solution is: > > -- beer/food on top (if roughly 15-20 lbs) > -- (2) 18# bags on either side of the rear rack. > (This would likely be a max load. I've done 60-70 pounds on the > Hunqapillar (on roads, not trails) and it's slower going.) Be sure to take > corners slow and allow extra space for stopping and all that safety stuff. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 7:15:23 PM UTC-7, Mobile Bill wrote: >> >> Much to my surprise, my Betty Foy is becoming my most used bike on my >> commutings and travels about town. Love the Saluki and my 1988 Trek like >> the first day I got on em, and the Betty Foy sort of became mine by >> default. But boy, the Betty Foy is convenient for so many reasons that I >> didn't expect it to be. Maybe it's how easy it is to hop in and around the >> the mixte frame, maybe it's the Bosco bars I was smart enough to add, maybe >> it's the simple but effective front double, or the springy B67 saddle, or >> the fact that I can climb on it without the least regard for what I'm >> wearing or whether the pants legs will get grease on em, or the fact that >> it's got capacious baskets all over it. But when I need to get on a bike >> and get going and move stuff around, two thirds of the time I hop on the >> Betty. >> Now here's the thing. I do much of my shopping on it. And today, I >> had the choice of loading up a 36 pound bag of dogfood -- along with beer >> and food -- or an 18 pound bag. Add 180 pounds or so of previously digested >> groceries, add this and that, and suddenly poor Betty is carting around 230 >> or more pounds. I pondered what the impact of carrying that much weight >> would be on a mixte frame, particuarly over a dozen miles of cracked >> pavement, and without any data, chickened out and loaded up the 18 pound >> bag. I've loaded it up big before, and the bike felt a little wobbly, but >> really no more so than the Saluki when heavily loaded. >> Did I unfairly prejudge the mixte frame? Has anyone ever ridden >> any Rivendell frames to excess? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.