>
>
>    - *“Negative” treads*, that just cut grooves into the tire, apparently 
>    are inspired by car tires, where they help prevent hydroplaning. But even 
>    very wide bicycle tires are too narrow for hydroplaning (and our speeds 
> are 
>    too low, too). Perhaps a fatbike with slick tires at 50 mph could 
>    hydroplane…
>
> I have not done the research so my account is personal. It sounds like you 
haven't done research on this yet either though?


I just switched from the folding version of the fatty rumpkins (one of the 
slowest, most long lasting tires you can buy at 650x42) to a pair of worn 
in BSPs.

Switching from one of the harder, more durable, slower tires you can buy to 
a pair of worn in BSPs provided a drastic comparison. My heavy steel bike 
feels like it's gliding. Climbing and descents on roads both seem faster 
and are more fun either way.

The BSPs are essentially useless in mud or wet sloppy gravel however. The 
rumpkins not only felt better going over tough roots, but they held far 
better traction than the BSPs. Climbing in and out of the saddle were 
really no problem with the rumpkins over the same course.

Perhaps a negative tread pattern like the rumpkins does have 
some benefits other than being inspired by car tires?

Some possible advantages:

Allows for more long lasting tread on longer tours, but the the cutouts 
allow the thicker tread to be more flexible and slightly lighter 
(drillium rubber!).

Allows for a non-trivial amount of grip in muddy, loose conditions without 
providing a rough road ride or negatively impacting cornering on roads in 
the way knobs would.


The only experiment I can think of would be to ride up the same muddy hill 
on the same day in the same gear with several sets of tires a 
statistically relevant number of times while timing the rides and counting 
slippages. Expensive and time consuming.

Either way I'm probably now a BSP lifelong customer even if  I switch them 
out for certain rides.




On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:19:06 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote:
>
> Sometimes, it seems that tire tread is just about "design", but there 
> actually are real reasons why some tires stick better than others, 
> especially in the wet...
>
> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/why-slick-tires-dont-stick-well/
>
> Jan Heine
> Compass Bicycles Ltd.
> www.compasscycle.com
>

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