Hi all,

I just spent a couple of hours this morning putting back the Noodle bars
after trying the Randonneur 45cm handlebar and not liking it as it's too
narrow. I first tried the 48cm Noodoe with the 10cm stem I already had; I'd
been riding the Noodles with a 9cm stem and feeling a lot of hand pain and
discomfort since I got the AHH. Going on a short test ride, I could feel my
hands hurting right away and my back strained. The actual position didn't
feel too weird, but I could tell that if this is how I was feeling after 10
- 15 minutes of riding, after an hour it would be much worse.

I then came back home and decided to go straight for the 8cm stem I had
gotten last week to see if it improved my problems. By this point, I'm
getting to be an expert at just removing the right shifter without having to
remove the cable (just pull the cable all the way, and then without pedaling
push it back all the way in so there will be extra cable that allows you to
remove the shifter but leave it hanging), although to remove the handlebar
from the stem I have to remove the stem first in order not to have to undo
the front brake. I've been testing it without cabling the rear brake.

Everything in my head tells me that the 8cm stem should be too short, but as
soon as I start riding, the magic clicks in! It is totally unbelievable...
the shoulders relax, the back relaxes, the hands feel significantly less
pressure, it all just falls right into its proper place. I don't know about
you, but once you have experienced that feeling, you know you've nailed the
position. There might still be a small bit of adjustment here and there,
minute handlebar rotation, minute stem height adjustments, but you know
you've got it.

That is exactly how I felt, and you can bet that's how I'm going to be
running it now and see what happens on longer rides. I'm still waiting for
the Surly rear cable hanger I ordered from VO, so the Racer brakes will
replace the Silvers when the hanger arrives, hopefully by next weekend.

Now, besides feeling that position magic, I did detect a "difference" in how
the 10 vs 8cm stems feel when turning the bicycle. I'm not sure I can
explain it properly, and I certainly didn't have the option to try the same
turns with two identical bikes with different stems, but it somehow felt
that with the 8cm stem, I had to "work" the bike more if I wanted to take an
aggressive turn. With the 10cm stem, it seemed like it was easier (less
effort) to take the turns. This was a bit surprising to me, since I know
from mountain biking that a shorter stem makes the handling more responsive
and nervous, but then again, the handling of the AHH is completely different
from what I was used to riding. I can't say I don't like how the bike turns
with the 8cm stem, in fact, after the 15 minute test ride I had completely
adjusted to how it handled, and that feeling of comfort was just so
amazing... :-)

So, does my experience in terms on how shorter vs. longer stems match yours?
I know fit is very personal, and I think the 8cm is going to be the right
one for me on the AHH, but I wonder if I've missed anything. I have yet to
test how lowering the shorter stem a bit does to the handling and the
comfort, but I'm sure many others will have additional feedback or can
benefit from these "experiments".

I now need to drive my daughter back to Berkeley, but when I come back I'll
install the cables and tape up the handlebars to go on a longer ride.

Can't believe tomorrow is Monday again... :-(

René

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