Bill,   Did you happen to get a feel for tire clearance, beyond what is 
obliquely visible from the latest photos?  It looks like the 55 Big Ben 
fits ok, but might not provide room for fenders.  Or would it?  Is the rear 
triangle more gracious than the new fork crown?  Do you think there's any 
chance a 60 could fit, with or without fenders - even if it doesn't satisfy 
the "legal" clearance requirement that manufactures have to state?    

I'm thinking about this bike yet again, but lack of ability to run a big 
tire could solve my decision dilemma  quickly.  I decided to speed up the 
build on my Clem and, unfortunately, it does appear that it is not going to 
be a good fit physically.   A 58 Joe might be just enough smaller but, if 
it meant giving up fatter tires, I'd probably choose to compromise and just 
stick with what I have.



On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 12:02:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Patrick
>
> I visited this morning and confirmed that the Butterscotch frame on the 
> BLUG is in fact a 55.  It's still not built, but I held it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>>

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