Hugh,
Thanks. My experiences mirror Tim's.  Pedal strike if I lean too far pedaling 
while turning.  I love the 650b wheels/tires and I can fit fenders!  A win-win 
for me.  Photos of my build here:
https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853
-Erl

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:13:57 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
> That's really cool Erl. Did you notice any pedal strike tendencies with the 
> lower BB height? I figure it's a non issue with road riding.
> 
> 
> Tail Winds,
> 
> 
> ~Hugh
> 
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 7:28:36 AM UTC-8, WETH wrote:My frame is 
> similar to Tim's.  Attached photo shows clearance under rear brake bridge 
> with a 700 x 28 Rolly Polly.  Following Tim's lead, I too successfully 
> converted to a 650b.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:24:08 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:50 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Tim Gavin wrote: Tire clearance doesn't seem to be as standard as you think.
> 
> > 
> 
> > This may be true, but I find it difficult to believe that the specs would 
> > be off by as much as 7mm. Again, I suspect the catalog refers to a 
> > different model year than this bicycle. I could be wrong though--I don't 
> > seem to be right as often as I think;^)
> 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> 
> > Fully lugged wrote: Tire size is always a function of available brakes.
> 
> > 
> 
> > I don't think there were many years in which a sidepull of one brand or 
> > another was not produced that could clear a 35mm tire. (Sorry about the 
> > awkward construction, need coffee.)
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I understand that Grant always tried to max out the clearance available of 
> > short-reach brakes. Still, the fact remains that my Riv Road Standard won't 
> > clear 700 x 29 (actual measurement, not manufacturer's size) without 
> > rubbing on the fork crown and brake bridge.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > (lousy picture but it shows the limited clearance.  700 x 28 (actual 
> > measurement) Kenda Qwest shown)
> 
> > 
> 
> > ​
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> 
> > I purchased my Riv used, so I don't know the circumstances of its creation. 
> >  It's a Waterford, July '97 build.  Maybe they did a Road Standard with 
> > semi-custom geometry?
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I thank the Reader articles on 650b conversion for helping me fit fatter 
> > tires (with 650b) and enjoy my Riv much more.  I have another 90s lugged 
> > steel road bike (Giordana XL-Eco) that can't even fit a 700 x 28 (actual) 
> > tire, and the skinny tires limit my enjoyment of it.  I'm a big guy and I 
> > like gravel and dirt, so I vastly prefer a wider tire.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Cheers,
> 
> > 
> 
> > Tim

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