Most people only casually acquainted with bars like that would probably refer to them as "cruiser bars," and so it would be natural for them to think of the bike as "a cruiser." It takes a sophisticated eye to see beyond the bars and notice that it's actually a long distance rider. As for thinking that front bag is "foppish" - I can't imagine. There's absolutely nothing even remotely foppish about it.

On 11/16/2015 04:40 PM, Ron Mc wrote:
thanks John, I get many good compliments on my bike at water stops - I've had people walk around it and look at every detail on it, stand back, and look some more. The girl on the trail blurted out that my front bag (really new to me) was foppish, only she didn't say it that nicely - it was a weird encounter - my teeth were not skinned, nor my manhood. It's the NAMILs who want to call it a cruiser - seems like a defense mechanism to downplay something not understood. I honestly built it to be a 10-20-mi bike, but after I got my bars dialed in, I can ride it 65 miles with no circulation pinch anywhere. I customized the gearing to match my terrain, 23 to 95 inches in 6-7-inch steps, but most everything I need is on the big ring and narrow steps around cruising gears. Had some time this afternoon, better light, and got better photos of the bike with the new bag

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It handles wonderfully and is a genuine all-road bike.

On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-6, JohnS wrote:

    ...
    Hello Ron,
    I like your ride, I would call it a sport touring bike. Why is it
    that non-cyclist associate upright bars with cruisers? I had a
    neighbor say the same thing about an '80's Centurion road bike
    which I had replaced the drop bars with Albatross bars. Kind of
    irked me at the time.

I

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