"The drag must be measurable, but it’s not perceptible to me."

That is all that matters!

Enjoy!

Curtis

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Eric Norris <[email protected]> wrote:

> The lights have a rotating ring of small, very strong magnets in them,
> which think are somehow turning in response to the wheel going by them, but
> I’m not sure.
>
> As I said, in the real world, on real bikes, I can’t feel any kind of drag
> from these lights. My guess is that they’re much more efficient than a
> standard hub or bottle generator, which has much larger physical parts that
> are rotated by the motion of the bike and, in the case of a bottle
> generator, friction between the tire and the generator. The drag must be
> measurable, but it’s not perceptible to me.
>
> Hold up the front wheel on a Magnic-equipped light and spin it … it just
> spins, like the lights weren’t there. Even a very efficient hub generator,
> with the lights off, doesn’t spin as easily.
>
> --Eric Norris
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>
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Curtis McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So true, not friction.
>
> However, work must be done to induce a current.  What object is doing the
> work?
>
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/farlaw.html
>
> Curtis "where friction is is not work" McKenzie
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Eric Norris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This looks like it works on the same principle as the Magnic Lights,
>> which I’ve been using for several years. Magnic just came out with Ver. 2
>> of their product, which added new circuitry for a steadier and brighter
>> light.
>>
>> No friction!? Absolutely true. There is no contact between the Magnic
>> light and the bike, other than the mount. The system generates energy from
>> the motion of the (alloy or steel) rims passing by the light.
>>
>> I have one of the new headlights, but I haven’t had time to use it. The
>> first gen lights aren’t nearly as bright as, say, an Edelux, but for me
>> they’re certainly bright enough to ride with. They’re also always on,
>> adding the benefit of daytime running lights.
>>
>> Despite the protests of skeptics, I would say that the lights have no
>> effect on the bike’s speed. If there is, I can’t feel it. Yes, you don’t
>> get something (light) for nothing, but the Magnic Lights come very, very
>> close.
>>
>> P.S. The inventor of the Magnic Light is currently fighting several
>> patent battles with other companies using the “eddy technology.” This might
>> be one of them.
>>
>> P.P.S. Magnic Lights are available in the USA from Clever Cycles in
>> Portland OR.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> [email protected]
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Curtis McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Neo Light
>>
>> No friction?  Interesting. Grin.
>>
>> Curtis "cannot get something for nothing" Mckenize
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:29 AM, dstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I got a little liquored up and backed a few too many kickstarter
>>> projects the other night:
>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1651132789/neo-worlds-most-powerful-friction-free-bikelight
>>>
>>> This looks cool but looks like it is just meant for city riding? Not a
>>> lot of info on the site about brightnewss. Either way, I don't want to
>>> spend the time and money on a dedicated dyno set so we'll see how this
>>> turns out. Will write up on it when I have it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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