I've never owned a Riv but as a potential future buyer, I strongly prefer the Atlantis/Bombadil/Hunqapillar line of bikes over the Clem and Appaloosa. I have reservations about the super long chainstays but mostly my reservations revolve around the move to designing bikes for bars with huge rise and sweep-back. I like traditional MTB bars with 9-10 degrees of backsweep and up to about 40mm of rise and I like more of my weight planted on the front wheel. I don't know if the new models would work well for me in this area.
I just wish RBW would make a less expensive version of those bikes offered as a frameset rather than the direction they are currently going. On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 11:33:06 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote: > > Yea, I'd really like to have that Joe. It's a great looking bike and I > really like those handlebars. It's also a great price. > > I don't think it's the Clem owners who should have any regrets, it's the > Bomba and Hunq owners. That Joe is about half their price? This Joe > could have an impact on the Riv resale market. I was convinced a Clem was > better than my 80's mountain bikes, (IT"S WAY BETTER), now couldn't a brand > new Joe be better than a used Hunq, or Bomba? > > > On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 8:35:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Wood wrote: > >> Any Clem buyers regretting their decision? I'm waiting for my 59 Clem but >> the 58 Joe seems appealing. A lot of the same positive features (long chain >> stays, tire clearance, high bars, load carrying capacity), but it seems the >> joe could be set up as a drop bar fast tourer. I feel like the Clem >> geometries prevent it from being a go fast or drop bar bike, but that being >> said I haven't even ridden it yet. The joe is obviously in a different >> price bracket and I don't see the purpose of owning both one day due to >> their similarities. I'm just going to love my Clem and have fun riding it, >> that hasn't changed. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.