I don't think any of the "domestic" knickers are quite so sophisticated in 
their cut, and quite as performance-oriented. It's like many of the 
mainstream "classic" bikes, which go for the look of a classic, but not 
necessarily get the performance right. 

The Compass knickers really are incredibly light, and they really do 
disappear when you ride. I rode 2/3 of PBP this year without them and 1/3 
with them, and there was no difference in speed or feel. I can't say that 
about other knickers, which often work remarkably well, but I am always 
aware that I am wearing them.

Or to put it another way, these are the only knickers I'd ever do hill 
intervals in. Not that you should do hill intervals, but basically, these 
are intended for riders who don't want to compromise performance, but who 
don't like the look of tight-fitting lycra.

Jan Heine
Compass Bicycles Ltd.
www.compasscycle.com

On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 2:29:11 PM UTC+9, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> I was wondering how Japanese knickers differ from the american ones like 
> swrve, chrome, betabrand, etc.  Umm yeah don't google "japanese knickers" 
> at work.  But Japanese cycling knickers didn't turn up anything either.
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:17:49 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The whole idea of knickers is to have pants that look good, but otherwise 
>> disappear when you ride. Ours are based on Japanese cyclotouring and hiking 
>> knickers, which are quite sophisticated, with articulated knees and hidden 
>> drawcords at the leg cuffs. This makes them incredibly complex to sew, 
>> which explains the price. If we priced them like most clothing companies 
>> price clothing, they'd be unaffordable...
>>
>> Jan Heine
>> Compass Bicycles
>> www.compasscycle.com
>>
>

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