Tony, great questions! First, Cotton analogy is in my experience superior to double ventile because of the capillary action that draws liquid moisture away to the outer layers. So a double ventile jacket will keep the wet out, it is less efficient at getting the wet out. Hilltrek, I believe, is the only company to offer Cotton Analogy.
I called Hilltrek and asked all sorts of questions. I explained my multi-purpose and they steered me away from the snug Greenspot and to the bulkier, but multi purpose Liathach. Everything about their customer service has been excellent and we've purchased from them multiple times. (Note, their pants/breeches are extremely tight fitting and they don't offer a loose fitting version. They tried what ended up being a one-off experiment pair of breeches for me, and with modification on our en I have a great pair of ventile breeches with enough room for cycling, running, squatting, sitting, but they don't offer it and seemed appalled at my adding 6" of fabric into the entirety of the inner leg area to make them work.) However, the Liathach jacket works great over a t-shirt, or over my heavy boiled wool sweater in winter. Lots of flexibility. Talk with them about your planned activities and your measurements and they will give recommendations. Feel free to email me off list if you have specific questions, though obviously my experience is limited and you milage may vary. Deleting the VAT is smooth and easy. I suspect the price difference you see is for the capillary action liner of the Cotton Analogy Jacket, which is a proprietary technology licensed from Paramo for use with ventile. "Analogy" refers to the liner working like animal fur, actively pushing/wicking moisture (vapor and liquid) away from the body to the outer layers. It really is amazing stuff and well worth the cost difference, at least in a jacket (my gators and breeches are double ventile). The Rivendell ventile jacket does not have the fur-analogy liner, and I don't recall how many layers of ventile it has. The main issue you'll have with Hilltrek is their timing and production line. If they are making to order (custom or not), they are a small shop and things can take a while. Well worth the wait. It's similar to waiting for a Rivendell frame/build. Small shoppe, amazing results. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 5:02:32 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > For Will and Patrick, any issues ordering from Hilltrek or customer > service notes. I like the idea of that sort jacket but hate to purchase > something that spendy both site unseen and from overseas. Can you confirm > if the euro VAT gets removed for US purchasers? > > And one more thing if your willing, it's tough for me to understand based > on their site what makes up the 160 pound delta between the analogy smock > and the double centile greenspot. I see a nikwax pump liner mentioned but > not explained. Thanks! > > Also how is this type of jacket similar or different from the Riv fancy > rain jacket other than style? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
