On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 09:57 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Nov 16, 7:12 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > In my experience, 30-something's about the right distance for a photo
> > ride. I spend enough time taking pictures that it adds a significant
> > amount of time to the length of a ride. Besides, beyond a certain point
> > I find my "eye" wants to shut down and isn't interested in seeing photo
> > opportunities any longer.
>
> > Just curious: has anyone here ever tried to organize a "photo ride" as a
> > group ride? If so, how'd you do it, and how did it go?
>
> that's interesting.
>
> I find that taking photos on a longer, or more strenous ride to be a
> nice distraction, and even re-energizing. taking a nice pic is a
> reminder of why i enjoy cycling so much - i sometimes need that
> reminder during those tough stretches of road ;)
>
> and some moments are just too good to *not* take a picture of, no
> matter the circumstances. earlier this fall, I met up with a group
> doing the 6 gap ride in VT. there was a couple on a tandem and I
> couldn't wait to take pictures of them going up the east side of
> Lincoln Gap - what bicycling magazine calls the "toughest mile in
> America." not something I normally do when ascending that hill, but
> that feat needed to be memorialized!
>
> in any event, i don't find that taking pictures slows me down
> appreciably for casual rides/brevets/etc. - maybe 10-15mins per 100
> miles?
Wow. I can burn 5 minutes on one shot. Now to be fair, many of mine
are multi-shot panoramas, so that one shot is made up of anywhere from 2
or 3 to 8 or 9 individual exposures; and up until now I've been relying
on manual exposure settings (most recently tried AF/AE lock, jury still
out) so it takes a lot longer than it might seem at first. And, playing
off something quoted in a recent obit of a famous photographer ("it's a
matter of knowing where to stand and when to do it") you can spend a
good deal of time finding the right place to stand.
On this ride
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157622461091582/show/
I spent an hour in one stretch of road that was less than 5 miles long
down and back. Between photo ops, I was riding at around 14 mph,
especially after I noticed how the weather was starting to deteriorate
(in fact, I cut the ride short by around 20 miles, as well as picking up
the pace) but my overall "brevet style" average came out to be under 10.
> what do you consider significant and why is the loss of time an issue
> - is it preventing you from riding with the group?
Certainly. First time you stop, they're gone, and anything over 5
minutes means you'll certainly never see them again. In fact, chances
are good that after 3 minutes of stopping you'll never regain contact.
Sometimes, of course, that can be liberating, like here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157621915320542/show/
when I decided as long as they'd dropped me, I'd take pictures of the
scenic things they were missing as they zoomed by.
The first shot's at the crest of a roller, one in a series; the dirt
road and the barn in the next one is at the apex of a diminishing radius
downhill turn that'd I'd been by at least a hundred times before over
the years and never once saw it, too busy minding the turn. The last 6
were taken at the base of two of the most difficult climbs in the area,
and once the climb begins in earnest nobody has any attention left for
gawking at scenery. So although I'd been up those climbs scores of
times, I never actually saw any of those scenes before that day.
> i suppose it also depends on how serious you are about the quality of
> photos.
Well, if you're not even going to stop, just point the camera over your
shoulder and take whatever you get, that won't take much time.
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