Garth, you are right: single layer ventile isn't waterproof. Double layer and "Cotton Analogy" layers ventile are waterproof. Yes, they are heavier/bulkier. They also replace the weight/bulk of a rain jacket and one layer of warmer clothing, at least for me. I don't know what your definition of "packable" is, but I pack mine all the time and take single layer or cotton analogy depending on activity/duration, anticipated conditions.
Steve said: "Ventile's pretty hot to wear when it's 70 degrees or above. " At which point there is no need for a rain jacket. Just get wet and be warm. Grin. That why I specified the temp range of up to 60˚F. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 12:34:59 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote: > > > Ventile is not completely 100 percent waterproof. It's also bulky , > not exactly small packing if packable at all. > > So called waterproof *and* breathable fabrics only exist as relatives > . A truly 100 percent waterproof fabric won't "breathe" , and a vapor > permeable fabric by it's nature of being permeable cannot be 100 percent > waterproof. > > So to me, all arguments for a given philosophy are flawed no matter how > it's thought of . > > There just isn't a perfect fabric . And while someone may say "it's > perfect for me" , they're really only settling for imperfection . True > Perfection is infallible and Absolute. Not found in a material world , no > matter all the "man" made inventions that have been are are to be . > > So what's the solution of all solutions , Absolute ? It's not found > at all . . . . in fact inventions and searching only confirm a belief it > is not already Present ! Yes . . . . Present and at Hand . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.