On 07/02/2015 07:53 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Some Rams will take at least 32s and possibly 35s and fenders. When I put 35 Kojaks on mine, there was still a great deal of room under bridges and crown and between fork legs and stays.

Mine was one of the first orange ones. I have no experience with the later ones. It was, as I described, limited to 28mm with fenders. However, the true, actual choke point was the Shimano long reach dual pivot sidepull brakes, which did not on their own open wide enough to even clear a 28 mm tire.




On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com <mailto:palin...@his.com>> wrote:

    On 07/02/2015 03:33 PM, Lungimsam wrote:
    > 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality?

    I owned a Rambouillet and a Saluki, Bleriot's older and fancier
    twin.  They both have a characteristic, identifieable "this is a
    Rivendell" ride; however since the Saluki can fit 42mm Hetres (I
    did, and I believe Tony, the current owner does too) there's that
    typical, wonderful "every road is a smooth road" silkiness to the
    ride of the Saluki that the Rambouillet, limited as it is to 28 mm
    tires (with fenders) can't begin to come close to.

    Also: the Saluki is a great bike on gravel roads, as long as the
    grade doesn't get up into the teens and beyond. There's a lot of
    wheel flop, and climbing a 14% grade on gravel in a 22" gear it's
    hard to maintain directional stability.  With 28mm tires the
    Rambouillet for me was entirely unsuitable for gravel, full stop.

    >
    > 2. How does the 700c or 26" wheels make it feel different than the
    > 650b Bleriot?

    See above re: ride.  But note, the geometry of the Rambouillet and
    the Saluki are very different.  73 degree head angle with the
    Rambouillet vs 71 degree with the Saluki.  That will have as much
    of an effect as the difference in tire size.



    >
    > 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well?
    >

    I never carried a load on the front of the Rambouillet.  The
    Saluki had fittings for a rack, and I had a Berthoud rack on mine
    (yes, /that/ one).  Because the (largest size Berthoud) bag was
    supported on a rack low down, it handled loads fairly well, with
    just one exception.  Comparing the Saluki to the MAP Randonneur
    that replaced it, with the same weight of load when straightening
    up from a turn with the Saluki it felt as though I was lifting the
    load with the handlebars.  With the MAP you really don't feel the
    load at all.


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