Hi All, 

Let's see if I can link the NFE, the Jones, and Rivendell sufficiently to 
make this on topic. I sold my Hunqapillar to fund my Jones. I really liked 
the Hunq, but I love the Jones. Very different bikes so not really fair to 
compare, but for my purposes the Jones is the better option. I use it 
mostly for singletrack and have put in up to 9 hour trail rides on it. It's 
an exceptional bike. But it's not the same thing as the NFE (not that Mike 
was saying this explicitly) so I don't think I'd choose one or the other 
for similar purposes.   

So, I will have both. 

I really loved my Terraferma, but always felt the fit was slightly off. I'd 
become a convert to 650B, however, and so when I learned of the NFE I made 
plans to sell my Terraferma. The disc brakes were a major selling point for 
me. After getting back into mountain biking a couple of summers ago (to 
which I credit the Hunq) and trying discs I was blown away. I know there's 
been lots of discussion here about the merits of cantis but FOR ME there's 
no contest. BB7s are incredibly simple to set up and are far superior--IN 
MY EXPERIENCE--to the Paul Toring cantis I had on the Terreferma (to be 
honest, the 15 year old $10 Deore V brakes on my LHT are better than the 
Pauls--heresy, perhaps). I know some will disagree and that's fine. 

I'll use the NFE (should be here in a few weeks) in the same way I used the 
Terraferma: for mixed terrain road riding as well as paved only rides. And 
if I return to randonneuring I'll use it for that too. For me, the Jones is 
best left as a mountain bike. But it for sure could be set as a capable all 
arounder with different wheels. For now it's set up as a fat front. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/16710535399/in/dateposted-public/  

One thing that's neat about the Jones is that it takes a little wind out of 
the sails of those--like me, for a time--committed to thinking fit was some 
sort of magic. After all, they only come in one size! Just tweak here and 
there, listen to Jeff's advice, and you're all set. He asked me how tall I 
am, whether or I wanted to sit up a bit or be in a more agressive position. 
He then told me what stem he thought I should get. That was it. Bike fits 
fantastically.

Anyway, hope all the Riv folks don't mind the digression!

Christian 

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