anyone in the bay area see the protovelo frame they have in back? i visited 
for the first time last weekend, saw it, and they described it as "like a 
sam, but with cantis and bigger clearances. it will probably be out in a 
couple of years".  that's all the info i got, and for my personal needs, 
that is too much crossover with atlantis and hunq. if we can assume the 
future based on the past, i'd be inclined to get a sam now... especially if 
you like the way the sam is now. 

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