"My dream bike these days is a front loader, like the boulder, with a rack 
system that takes a big Handlebar bag and removable low riders for front 
panniers, and maybe a light rear rack for the sleeping bag. And puffy 
tires. https://janheine.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/setting-our-own-trends/ 
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fjanheine.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F05%2F13%2Fsetting-our-own-trends%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHXUPpioBZUGUf2_f-l-17OPxQR0A>
"

I did love that particular post.  Having owned a Porsche 911 for a couple 
year's Jan's reference really clicked for me and I finally 'got' the 
difference at least from an intent perspective.  I haven't ridden a 
Boulder, Weigle, MAP or other bike at all myself.  I did really enjoy my 
demo ride on one of Rob Perk's OAC Rambler 
<http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/rambler>, which is designed to be 
a fully integrated sport tour/rando/town frame and it was one of the most 
effortless and enjoyable rides I've ever had.  The Rawland rSOGN I owned 
briefly never clicked for me but I think that's largely because the size 
was wrong.  The Saluki and Bombadil in my garage now are without a doubt my 
current favorites.

Interesting point about the tinkerer's frameset vs something more purpose 
built.  Although Jan's adventures in BQ suggest a pretty wide application 
of that same frame/component concept.  The Rambler kind of straddles that 
line and certainly any Riv can be built up and left alone as well.  In fact 
that is my intention w/ my Saluki as the primary, upright, racked commuter 
bike.  But there is always the option to completely re-imagine it.  In a 
one or two bike situation that seems to me to be a huge advantage over the 
Boulder.  Once you get into the 3+ bikes however... :) 

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