And that's why the gods invented editors.
</*smile*/>
Dave, who has worked as both a writer and an editor in his life and so
intimately knows both sides of that delicate dance
On 5/26/15 12:52 PM, George Schick wrote:
Heh. OK, maybe "testimonial" was a poor choice of words. How about
"impression of" or "critique?"
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:41:38 AM UTC-5, Dave Hallerman wrote:
Wow, a testimonial with the following points being made:
* Tightening was tricky.
* Doesn't have the "feel" of other headsets.
* Difficult to install upper and lower races.
* Much greater difficulty.
* Chrome stripped off.
Wow, please don't offer a testimonial to this post of mine.
Dave, who reiterates that in general final price is not your real
cost nor your real value in many things not just headsets and adds
that many people here have really really nice bikes so scrimping
doesn't make sense unless money is very tight
On 5/26/15 12:33 PM, George Schick wrote:
This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle
bearing headset Riv sells. The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet
indexed about 4 years ago so I started looking for replacements.
I like the Chris King products, but thought I'd give the IRD a
shot, since Grant "sold" the idea of needle bearings for the
lower race. So far it's worked flawlessly and I do not detect
any of the sluggishness that Grant described on the Riv web page.
So I'd say give it a try if you want to go in that direction.
Tightening the headset was tricky; I had to re-tighten it once
or twice after riding for a while because it doesn't seem to have
the "feel" of the bearing movement that ordinary ball-types do.
But once I got it dialed-in it was OK.
Installation was a different matter, however. First of all, it
comes packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.
Opening everything up and looking at the lower race components
made me think of a miniature version of an automobile front axle
tapered bearing set. So I had to decide what kind of grease to
use on everything. I wound up just using the regular Phil grease
and it's worked fine. Pressing the upper and lower races into
the head tube was one of the most difficult operations. I had
everything well greased both inside the head tube as well as
around the races, but it went in with much greater difficulty
than any headset I can recall installing. Not sure why this was.
In fact, some of the chrome stripped off of the lower race
during the process. But I finally got it in there OK. I would
definitely not recommend installing this (or any headset, for
that matter) without a decent installation tool, either like the
one Park makes or an improvised equivalent. Then, getting the
old crown "race" off of the fork was a major challenge. Whoever
installed it needs to think hard and long about how to do things
- it was very un-Riv-like. Instead of sanding off the paint and
primer and then greasing the steering tube, they just hammered on
there over paint and everything, sans grease. Never do that. It
took lots of hammering with a drift punch. I'm not sure that
even a bone fide crown race puller would've budged it. But
that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD itself.
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote:
I've managed to notch the Shimano 105 headset on my Rom. My
shop says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this
headset, so we switched the bottom cartridge to the top for
now, but I'm researching a new one. This is the second
headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the
other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm
searching for a replacement that will last. I've
considered the CK headsets in the past but they seem mighty
expensive and while most reviews are positive there are some
reviews suggesting they are not worth the money. Also
considering the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv
site. Other ideas would be appreciated! .
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