I don't want to get into an argument about whether a guy of my age
would have gotten the same comments about clipless pedals. Maybe,
maybe not. And I certainly believe that the comments were
well-intentioned.

But Will, I think you're missing the point. It's not about the cost of
the item; it's about how out of the mainstream it is. Some bikes are
more obviously intentional than other bikes. It's easy to end up with
a $5K carbon bike; if you walk into a bike store with $5K and a desire
for an expensive bike, you are not unlikely to walk out with a $5K
racing-style carbon bike. That'll be the default, in many cases. There
is nothing unusual about a $5K carbon bike, at least where I live.
Someone could have one because they carefully evaluated all the
alternatives and deliberately chose exactly what was on their bike,
but they could also have one because they got the thing that people
buy. The same is true for an expensive Graco stroller; it's expensive,
but nobody has to go out of their way to buy a Graco stroller.

On the other hand, some bikes are clearly chosen. If I see someone
touring on a generic Surly Long Haul Trucker, well, that's a pretty
common bike to tour on. But if I see someone touring on a singlespeed
'cross bike, I'm going to figure they chose to tour on a singlespeed
'cross bike, and I'm not going to tell them they should consider using
gears. I might have a long and interesting discussion about the merits
of gears versus singlespeed when bike touring, but I'm not going to
assume that they're riding a singlespeed because they never heard of
gears before.

I always enjoy looking at individualized bikes, and talking to their
owners about why they made the choices they did. It's one thing that's
fun about meeting up with other Rivendell riders.

Here's the baby example: if you were changing the baby, and a woman
noticed you were using cloth diapers, would you like it if she started
telling you about disposable diapers? That would be annoying.  People
who use cloth diapers chose cloth diapers. And people on bikes with
Rohloff hubs, Gates belts, dynamos and flat pedals chose flat pedals.

But other
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Will <waller.will...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's true. But when I walked the babies I didn't think the advice that I
> received was ill-intentioned, nor did I get into a gender wrangle with it
> (or post to a use-group).

> The second point is: do not assume that your bike's (or stroller's) setup
> implies credibility. I have seen lots of folks riding expensive carbon bikes
> that don't make sense (to me). Does the fact that they are riding a 5K bike
> mean they have a clue?


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